I general do not put much stock in any poll that places their own coach ahead of others.
My vote would be:
1) Kelly 2) Kiffen
Leach and Rod are WAY overrated IMO
Kiffen? I disagree. With as much talent as he has had the past few years, it's hard to argue their success is because of his coaching ability. Recruiting and bending the rules to get top-tier recruits? Now that's a different story.
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:59 pm
Phenom
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Re: Top Pac-12 coaches
dd10snoop28 wrote:
Bud Lee wrote:
I general do not put much stock in any poll that places their own coach ahead of others.
My vote would be:
1) Kelly 2) Kiffen
Leach and Rod are WAY overrated IMO
Kiffen? I disagree. With as much talent as he has had the past few years, it's hard to argue their success is because of his coaching ability. Recruiting and bending the rules to get top-tier recruits? Now that's a different story.
In college sports, recruiting is a huge part of being a coach.
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Re: Top Pac-12 coaches
Phenom wrote:
dd10snoop28 wrote:
Bud Lee wrote:
I general do not put much stock in any poll that places their own coach ahead of others.
My vote would be:
1) Kelly 2) Kiffen
Leach and Rod are WAY overrated IMO
Kiffen? I disagree. With as much talent as he has had the past few years, it's hard to argue their success is because of his coaching ability. Recruiting and bending the rules to get top-tier recruits? Now that's a different story.
In college sports, recruiting is a huge part of being a coach.
Exactly, the most important job of a college coach is recruiting, the second most important job is keeping the kids that you recruited. The fact that he was able to keep those kids at USC and continue to bring in new talent to keep that program up is nothing short of exceptional . Now I’m sure the name brand “USC” helped a lot and I’m not saying he isn’t a douche of a guy, but it is hard to deny that he is a good college football coach.
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:05 am
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Re: Top Pac-12 coaches
That board Laughed at the guy who said CK cheated to get here and laughed that the original poster put riley first. That was about all I gleaned from this.
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:11 am
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Here is how I would classify a coach in the Pac 12 as being a top tier coach: You could show up to any kid's door-step on the east coast and he'd invite you in. Chip and Lame are getting inside that door. Mike is not. He's a very-well respected coach, no doubt about it, but he has simply turned OAC into a semi-annual bowl team, and nothing more.
I general do not put much stock in any poll that places their own coach ahead of others.
My vote would be:
1) Kelly 2) Kiffen
Leach and Rod are WAY overrated IMO
Kiffen? I disagree. With as much talent as he has had the past few years, it's hard to argue their success is because of his coaching ability. Recruiting and bending the rules to get top-tier recruits? Now that's a different story.
In college sports, Lying and Manipulating is a huge part of being a coach.
Fixed.
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:50 am
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Re: Top Pac-12 coaches
It's kinda crazy that everyone thought Kiffin was highly overrated, then he beat Oregon this year and he's a top 10 coach nationally.
IMO there isn't enough of a sample size on Kiffin just yet for me to decide because he's only won 1 big game in his short career. It is kinda cool though that we've become a team that helps validate others(ohio st finally winning a 'big' one, kiffin's rise, cal almost beating us was huge for them etc)
I general do not put much stock in any poll that places their own coach ahead of others.
My vote would be:
1) Kelly 2) Kiffen
Leach and Rod are WAY overrated IMO
Kiffen? I disagree. With as much talent as he has had the past few years, it's hard to argue their success is because of his coaching ability. Recruiting and bending the rules to get top-tier recruits? Now that's a different story.
Agree.
I think of Coach Kiffin like I thought of Coach Kent with Luke, Luke and Freddy on the floor. Sometimes a coach simply has professional quality talent that comes together, works hard, and plays to win. Sometimes that happens in spite of the coaching.
USC beat us in Autzen last year fair and square. Kudos to them. But they won because of Barkely, M. Lee and Woods; not on account of some genius, revolutionary coaching strategy by Coach Kiffin.
We were destroying USC's defense when they fielded the Tampon 2. Whomever at USC decided that a change in defensive philosophy was necessary is the best coach at on that staff.
Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:42 pm
USUaggieDuck
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Re: Top Pac-12 coaches
You can tell riley isn't a top coach by how much space they had to use just to defend him in the list.
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:55 pm
Braveheart
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Re: Top Pac-12 coaches
Tough Crowd.
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Duck fans calling out other fans for their coaches "bending the rules" in recruiting is.... ironic?!?
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