CA SB206 Signed

[GoDucksIn09]

If this goes forward this will be the death of college sports as we know it. Schools that are not in a big market will probably not be able to compete with the big boys and that is going to be a sad deal.

Years ago for those not old enough to remember Title IX made significant impact on college sports. It was not just about giving women the chance to compete which they deserved, it made a level platform for the Oregon's to compete with the blue bloods. Before Title IX schools like USC, UCLA, Washington, Texas, Notre Dame, Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama among several others would have no limitations on the number of kids they would put on scholarship. The deeper the money pockets the more kids they could put on scholarship. This skewed the competition to favor those teams with deep pockets. Oregon could not compete.

I worry about the ramifications of this bill. What makes college sports so wonderful is the passion these kids have to try and compete with others and then we have the upsets which is what makes it so beautiful. You skew the playing field and lot of those things we all love about college sports will go away, This is truly sad. I don't want teams being allowed to buy championships.

Part of the reason the NY Yankees have won so many championships is because is no salary cap in baseball and they can literally buy whoever they want to try to persuade them to play for them.

I know I am in the minority because I am old and I remember what it was like before Title IX. This bill is a huge step backwards. The death of college sports as we know it will happen if this does not get stopped.

[duck541]

None of us know how this will play out, but I think it's foolish to think that it will only be local car dealerships and the like being the only ones paying for a player's likeness. There is already hundreds of thousands of dollars going to individual athletes and their families from boosters. This will essentially legalize that practice, and open the doors to a much larger pool of money. If you don't think Uncle Phil is going to take advantage of that on our behalf then you don't understand how badly he wants to see Oregon win a national title.

Just look at college basketball and the recent scandals involving every major shoe brand. If that was legal you're going to have kids like Zion with million dollar deals before they start class, and you better believe schools will indirectly and unofficially be involved in brokering those deals. They already are now.

Personally, I think that if a player wants to profit off their likeness, then they should also lose their scholarship and have to pay for all that on their own. What's lost in this is that there is a tremendous amount of value in being an amateur athlete that isn't given in cash. If you want to cash in, then you lose those benefits.

What the NCAA should have done was realized that this was inevitable and pushed for a system that takes some of the money generated by the NCAA, the conferences, and the universities, to essentially create a salary cap. Because of Title IX you have to create a system that creates an equal opportunity for women's teams, so something like x% of revenue generated by the sport goes to this salary pool, with minimums and maximums for each sport, with excess revenue going to a pool that distributed to all teams to help level the playing field.

[nogerO]

One more thing here. The Pac-12 knew this was happening for MONTHS. That statement today released by Larry Scott was embarrassing. Whether or not he agrees with the bill is not the point. He is directly in the center of something he cannot stop or change. The PAC-12 has been losing market share and money to the other 4 major conference for the past 10 years.

He should have stood up and pretended like he was all for this. He could have changed the landscape of the PAC-12 by saying that this was a long time coming and we expect our other schools to follow. We want to keep our kids on the west coast at the best schools and give them the best opportunity in life and In athletics. Could have secured a new TV deal and been the conference that “pushed for change”.

Brutal. Of all the idiotic things he has done, today takes the cake.

Spot on!

[nogerO]

If this goes forward this will be the death of college sports as we know it. Schools that are not in a big market will probably not be able to compete with the big boys and that is going to be a sad deal.

Years ago for those not old enough to remember Title IX made significant impact on college sports. It was not just about giving women the chance to compete which they deserved, it made a level platform for the Oregon's to compete with the blue bloods. Before Title IX schools like USC, UCLA, Washington, Texas, Notre Dame, Florida, Michigan, Ohio State, Alabama among several others would have no limitations on the number of kids they would put on scholarship. The deeper the money pockets the more kids they could put on scholarship. This skewed the competition to favor those teams with deep pockets. Oregon could not compete.

I worry about the ramifications of this bill. What makes college sports so wonderful is the passion these kids have to try and compete with others and then we have the upsets which is what makes it so beautiful. You skew the playing field and lot of those things we all love about college sports will go away, This is truly sad. I don't want teams being allowed to buy championships.

Part of the reason the NY Yankees have won so many championships is because is no salary cap in baseball and they can literally buy whoever they want to try to persuade them to play for them.

I know I am in the minority because I am old and I remember what it was like before Title IX. This bill is a huge step backwards. The death of college sports as we know it will happen if this does not get stopped.

California- the gift that keeps on giving.

[GoDucksIn09]

Do we as a society really want the college schools to be paying in order to win a championship. If the players are getting paid then what separates them from the pros. This is a slippery slope. I like the idea of money being set aside to be given to them once they graduate. I was in debt for a long long time after going to college. Nobody paid for my schooling, and nobody helped with my student loans. I never got to hear the cheer of thousands from the stands. I am not complaining, I am just stating facts.

[squintsdd]

Do we as a society really want the college schools to be paying in order to win a championship. If the players are getting paid then what separates them from the pros. This is a slippery slope. I like the idea of money being set aside to be given to them once they graduate. I was in debt for a long long time after going to college. Nobody paid for my schooling, and nobody helped with my student loans. I never got to hear the cheer of thousands from the stands. I am not complaining, I am just stating facts.

This is exactly my point. Whether they realize it or not, they are already getting paid, just not in the sense that they want. To most kids their age the only form of payment is money. In my opinion the value of a scholarship far exceeds whatever they might get paid in the few years they are a college athlete

[StevensTechU]

One more thing here. The Pac-12 knew this was happening for MONTHS. That statement today released by Larry Scott was embarrassing. Whether or not he agrees with the bill is not the point. He is directly in the center of something he cannot stop or change. The PAC-12 has been losing market share and money to the other 4 major conference for the past 10 years.

He should have stood up and pretended like he was all for this. He could have changed the landscape of the PAC-12 by saying that this was a long time coming and we expect our other schools to follow. We want to keep our kids on the west coast at the best schools and give them the best opportunity in life and In athletics. Could have secured a new TV deal and been the conference that “pushed for change”.

Brutal. Of all the idiotic things he has done, today takes the cake.

I think Scott sucks at his job and want him ousted, but this isn't a point against him. He's just a mouthpiece for the conference schools. He put out this statement because all 12 schools, including your Oregon Ducks, are against the bill.

[maxduck]

I couldn't find an online image but I understand an official football scholarship offer from USC is presented as having a value of a million dollars. Checking online I did find this old article.

SYNOPSIS

Despite recent claims that college football players are "oppressed" and "undervalued" relative to the revenues they generate for their universities, I argue using "cost of attendance" and "projected earnings" data that the average "value" of a college football scholarship is in excess of $2 million for student-athletes who (1) play for one of the pre-season Top 25 schools and (2) would not have pursued a college degree if it weren't for their scholarship.

And for over 99% of Division I FBS college football players on scholarship, this projected value in excess of $2 million is far greater than what any of them INDIVIDUALLY generate in revenue for their school.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/201 ... 470243619e

[nogerO]

One more thing here. The Pac-12 knew this was happening for MONTHS. That statement today released by Larry Scott was embarrassing. Whether or not he agrees with the bill is not the point. He is directly in the center of something he cannot stop or change. The PAC-12 has been losing market share and money to the other 4 major conference for the past 10 years.

He should have stood up and pretended like he was all for this. He could have changed the landscape of the PAC-12 by saying that this was a long time coming and we expect our other schools to follow. We want to keep our kids on the west coast at the best schools and give them the best opportunity in life and In athletics. Could have secured a new TV deal and been the conference that “pushed for change”.

Brutal. Of all the idiotic things he has done, today takes the cake.

I think Scott sucks at his job and want him ousted, but this isn't a point against him. He's just a mouthpiece for the conference schools. He put out this statement because all 12 schools, including your Oregon Ducks, are against the bill.

I’ll bet the Kal schools are very happy. And at what point do the teams pull the scholarship of rich players? Can of worms just turned into a drum of worms. We’ll see a big drop in graduation rates I would imagine. Just like most things going on in Kalipornia, not a lot of thought was put into this before it was rushed thru...

[StevensTechU]

One more thing here. The Pac-12 knew this was happening for MONTHS. That statement today released by Larry Scott was embarrassing. Whether or not he agrees with the bill is not the point. He is directly in the center of something he cannot stop or change. The PAC-12 has been losing market share and money to the other 4 major conference for the past 10 years.

He should have stood up and pretended like he was all for this. He could have changed the landscape of the PAC-12 by saying that this was a long time coming and we expect our other schools to follow. We want to keep our kids on the west coast at the best schools and give them the best opportunity in life and In athletics. Could have secured a new TV deal and been the conference that “pushed for change”.

Brutal. Of all the idiotic things he has done, today takes the cake.

I think Scott sucks at his job and want him ousted, but this isn't a point against him. He's just a mouthpiece for the conference schools. He put out this statement because all 12 schools, including your Oregon Ducks, are against the bill.

I’ll bet the Kal schools are very happy.

They're not. I'm basically quoting a friend who works in a pac 12 athletics department in my last post. All 12 were against this.

[nogerO]

One more thing here. The Pac-12 knew this was happening for MONTHS. That statement today released by Larry Scott was embarrassing. Whether or not he agrees with the bill is not the point. He is directly in the center of something he cannot stop or change. The PAC-12 has been losing market share and money to the other 4 major conference for the past 10 years.

He should have stood up and pretended like he was all for this. He could have changed the landscape of the PAC-12 by saying that this was a long time coming and we expect our other schools to follow. We want to keep our kids on the west coast at the best schools and give them the best opportunity in life and In athletics. Could have secured a new TV deal and been the conference that “pushed for change”.

Brutal. Of all the idiotic things he has done, today takes the cake.

I think Scott sucks at his job and want him ousted, but this isn't a point against him. He's just a mouthpiece for the conference schools. He put out this statement because all 12 schools, including your Oregon Ducks, are against the bill.

I’ll bet the Kal schools are very happy.

They're not. I'm basically quoting a friend who works in a pac 12 athletics department in my last post. All 12 were against this.

Good to hear, thanks.

[pezsez1]

I'm all for finding ways to better compensate players, but to allow a complete free-for-all for paying college athletes just feels like the completely wrong answer.

I mean, even if Uncle Phil does buy us a stable of stars and we win a national title -- whoop-tee-do? It would feel a bit cheapened, wouldn't it?

And yeah, this will essentially create an impenetrable ruling class of college football. There will be no practical way for the NCAA to enforce the deluge of money that will flow into players from so many different sources. The result will be the big-market teams with the deepest pockets get the most talent.

I really can't see a silver lining to this.

[Duck07]

Why is it just college athletes? Why aren't amateur high school athletes getting paid? Seems hypocritical AF to say that only college athletes should get paid when ESPN is out broadcasting HS games each week.

[StevensTechU]

I really can't see a silver lining to this.

Instead of Nick saban making $10M/year, money will be reallocated to his players, many of whom grow up below the poverty line.

[Alan]

Just a "what if"....... the NCAA says if you pay players you are no longer part of the NCAA and will not participate in NCAA activities including league games and Bowls. This is highly unfair to the vast majority of student athletes. I did hear that by a nationally recognized media member yesterday. While it is supposed to happen in 2023 I think it is a long way from happening, my guess it results in a compromise. Since student athletes are not allowed to work they will end up with a Perdiem or a allowance, if you will.