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Re: Offseason Discussion/League Improvements

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Something I've seen done in the past is going by what bballref says. Example:

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So LBJ would be eligible at SG, SF and PF.

It makes it easy and clean to follow a database we all have access to and is well-reputed.
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Re: Offseason Discussion/League Improvements

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pistolpetejr wrote:Something I've seen done in the past is going by what bballref says. Example:

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So LBJ would be eligible at SG, SF and PF.

It makes it easy and clean to follow a database we all have access to and is well-reputed.
The issue with that is that when we built players, we specifically said they can only play x, y or z.
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Re: Offseason Discussion/League Improvements

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Oregon Ownage wrote:
pistolpetejr wrote:Something I've seen done in the past is going by what bballref says. Example:

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So LBJ would be eligible at SG, SF and PF.

It makes it easy and clean to follow a database we all have access to and is well-reputed.
The issue with that is that when we built players, we specifically said they can only play x, y or z.
I think doing it as a "moving forward" thing makes it unfair for those who have teams that can compete or that will compete soon and only benefits rebuilding teams.
It would need to be for every player in the league from here on out or whenever you guys choose to have it in effect.
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Re: Offseason Discussion/League Improvements

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No lie, that would be even worse. I get that you let them play at x, y, z, and that may be the best solution, but tracking it becomes extremely cumbersome. what if bbref changes, is a gm punished because he didnt check the site?
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Brophdog88 wrote:No lie, that would be even worse. I get that you let them play at x, y, z, and that may be the best solution, but tracking it becomes extremely cumbersome. what if bbref changes, is a gm punished because he didnt check the site?
Think it just stays as what it was from draft. And it would be noted in draft notes.
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Personally I'd prefer whoever you start has to play that position. But I'm all for Broph idea. Will make Ownage's job tougher though.
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jibbajabba614 wrote:Personally I'd prefer whoever you start has to play that position. But I'm all for Broph idea. Will make Ownage's job tougher though.
Broph's list seems good, and can be pretty easily enforced. Most people look at their own box scores so if Ownage doesn't see one, someone will mention it in the thread per the usual or can just shoot a PM over to Ownage. I don't think it's rampant enough to ruin the league, but when something glaring like the Gasol one pops up it's easy enough to remedy, especially with set rules in place.
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Can I please play Oden at the Point or the Two for one sim?
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pudgejeff wrote:
jibbajabba614 wrote:Personally I'd prefer whoever you start has to play that position. But I'm all for Broph idea. Will make Ownage's job tougher though.
Broph's list seems good, and can be pretty easily enforced. Most people look at their own box scores so if Ownage doesn't see one, someone will mention it in the thread per the usual or can just shoot a PM over to Ownage. I don't think it's rampant enough to ruin the league, but when something glaring like the Gasol one pops up it's easy enough to remedy, especially with set rules in place.
What penalty would you suggest? Maybe cut players to their payroll could be added since competitive teams would benefit the most.
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I would love for some more GMs to weigh in with their thoughts on this
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I say place restrictions on every player or don't place any restrictions at all. Makes no sense only restricting certain players.
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I think in the last thread I was in favor of no more than 1 position away from the player's natural (draft) position, with the occasional special restriction on guys who break the game ridiculously (Lebron at 2, Melo at 2).
So listed at the draft as a C..... PF or C eligible
Listed at the draft as a PF..... C/PF/SF eligible
Listed at the draft as a SF.... PF/SF/SG eligible
Listed at the draft as a SG.... PG(backup)/SG/SF eligible.
Listed at the draft as a PG.... PG/SG eligible
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Cellar-door wrote:I think in the last thread I was in favor of no more than 1 position away from the player's natural (draft) position, with the occasional special restriction on guys who break the game ridiculously (Lebron at 2, Melo at 2).
So listed at the draft as a C..... PF or C eligible
Listed at the draft as a PF..... C/PF/SF eligible
Listed at the draft as a SF.... PF/SF/SG eligible
Listed at the draft as a SG.... PG(backup)/SG/SF eligible.
Listed at the draft as a PG.... PG/SG eligible
i think it's on the right track but it doesn't solve the bigs playing SF
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A center playing SF would never work realistically. A SF playing SG happens literally all the time. If we place the 1 position up or down restriction, which I'm all for, then that should be the only restriction. Don't restrict other certain players just because they are good. Melo has been playing the 2 for numerous seasons and now Gasol playing SF, both obvious glaring advantages for them. But one of these actually makes sense while the other is an absolute joke
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dennocj wrote:A center playing SF would never work realistically. A SF playing SG happens literally all the time. If we place the 1 position up or down restriction, which I'm all for, then that should be the only restriction. Don't restrict other certain players just because they are good. Melo has been playing the 2 for numerous seasons and now Gasol playing SF, both obvious glaring advantages for them. But one of these actually makes sense while the other is an absolute joke
I think extra restrictions would only be but in draft notes, not made retroactively, kinda like Bosh not allowed at SF
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