Oregon @ Utah (Nov. 10, Sat 2:30 PM Pac-12 Net)

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greenyellow wrote:Apelu missed the 2nd half of the UCLA game with an injury so it looks like he's still injured.
Missed that, thanks for clarifying.
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Duck24 wrote:
Duck07 wrote:Yeah seriously, why aren't we at Bama or Clemsons level already?
We don’t have bagmen and run a clean ship. No illicit payments or under the table dealings, unlike those scoundrels in the south.
After what Helfrich and Taggart did this to the team, I'm surprised by the lack of patience and perspective everyone has had this season as if A+ coaches and players can be found easily for every position.
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Duck07 wrote:
Duck24 wrote:
Duck07 wrote:Yeah seriously, why aren't we at Bama or Clemsons level already?
We don’t have bagmen and run a clean ship. No illicit payments or under the table dealings, unlike those scoundrels in the south.
After what Helfrich and Taggart did this to the team, I'm surprised by the lack of patience and perspective everyone has had this season as if A+ coaches and players can be found easily for every position.
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07 its the oregon fan base now. The chipster did great things here. Along with that came the
expectations that it would last forever. Unfortunetly he also left us with sanctions that
were still dealing with a little bit. I believe Mario needs to have 2-3 recruiting classes like he has now.
He also seems like the kind who has high expectations as well and wont take being mediocre on offense.
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Yeah, I think our collective group needs to alter perception and perspective this season. Wins are great and style points are inconsequential.
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greenyellow wrote:Apelu missed the 2nd half of the UCLA game with an injury so it looks like he's still injured.
Missed that, thanks for clarifying.
Additional info. Apelu our for rest of the regular season:
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Oregon should win these last 3 games.

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Duckenstein wrote:Last week defense played well except for 2-3 bonehead plays
If we think the defense played well against UCLA, we have very low expectations. The UCLA running backs ran for 200 yards while averaging over 5 yards per carry. They passed for almost 300 yards (297). When your defense looks like swiss cheese defending the run, and combines that with allowing receivers to run wide open all over the field far too often, that isn't a good combo. Luckily UCLA continued their theme of giving the game away by simply dropping multiple passes that killed drives and cost them scores.
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gogreen55 wrote:
Duckenstein wrote:Last week defense played well except for 2-3 bonehead plays
If we think the defense played well against UCLA, we have very low expectations. The UCLA running backs ran for 200 yards while averaging over 5 yards per carry. They passed for almost 300 yards (297). When your defense looks like swiss cheese defending the run, and combines that with allowing receivers to run wide open all over the field far too often, that isn't a good combo. Luckily UCLA continued their theme of giving the game away by simply dropping multiple passes that killed drives and cost them scores.
Especially in light with how UCLA's done against the rest of the Pac-12:
Colorado 289 yards
Utah 291 yards
Cal 348 yards
Washington 422 yards

Not a good sign when they are dropping 500 yards on us.

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I mean, Im not saying they're bamas defense

But you take 3 or so total blown assignment plays out, they score two less touchdowns

I don't think the defense is to blame for the teams woes

It's offensive playcalling that's been scouted by Monday of game week by opposing coaches

Alliotti hadn't even looked at film and can call every play they run by formation
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Duckenstein wrote:Last week defense played well except for 2-3 bonehead plays
If we think the defense played well against UCLA, we have very low expectations. The UCLA running backs ran for 200 yards while averaging over 5 yards per carry. They passed for almost 300 yards (297). When your defense looks like swiss cheese defending the run, and combines that with allowing receivers to run wide open all over the field far too often, that isn't a good combo. Luckily UCLA continued their theme of giving the game away by simply dropping multiple passes that killed drives and cost them scores.
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UOducksTK1 wrote:
gogreen55 wrote:
Duckenstein wrote:Last week defense played well except for 2-3 bonehead plays
If we think the defense played well against UCLA, we have very low expectations. The UCLA running backs ran for 200 yards while averaging over 5 yards per carry. They passed for almost 300 yards (297). When your defense looks like swiss cheese defending the run, and combines that with allowing receivers to run wide open all over the field far too often, that isn't a good combo. Luckily UCLA continued their theme of giving the game away by simply dropping multiple passes that killed drives and cost them scores.
Especially in light with how UCLA's done against the rest of the Pac-12:
Colorado 289 yards
Utah 291 yards
Cal 348 yards
Washington 422 yards

Not a good sign when they are dropping 500 yards on us.
On the other hand, there's more to look at than total yardage.

UCLA against:

Colorado 63 plays (4.6 yards per play for 16 points)
Utah 66 plays (4.4 yards per play for 10 points)
Cal 70 plays (5 yards per play for 37 points)
Washington 65 plays (6.5 yards per play for 24 points)

Oregon 87 plays (5.7 yards per play for 21 points)

The defense definitely has some room to improve, as does the offense in keeping the opponent's offense off the field.
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UOducksTK1 wrote:
gogreen55 wrote:
Duckenstein wrote:Last week defense played well except for 2-3 bonehead plays
If we think the defense played well against UCLA, we have very low expectations. The UCLA running backs ran for 200 yards while averaging over 5 yards per carry. They passed for almost 300 yards (297). When your defense looks like swiss cheese defending the run, and combines that with allowing receivers to run wide open all over the field far too often, that isn't a good combo. Luckily UCLA continued their theme of giving the game away by simply dropping multiple passes that killed drives and cost them scores.
Especially in light with how UCLA's done against the rest of the Pac-12:
Colorado 289 yards
Utah 291 yards
Cal 348 yards
Washington 422 yards

Not a good sign when they are dropping 500 yards on us.
Washington has a fantastic defense and they put up 422 on them. I think UCLA is just improving week to week.
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It will be announced at Autzen press conference tomorrow afternoon!
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We also held UCLA to like 45% passing with 27 incompletions.

That said, our defense is very poor at attacking shifty backs. One good cut and a big lane opens up
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UCLA also put up nearly 400 yards against Oklahoma
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greenyellow wrote:UCLA also put up nearly 400 yards against Oklahoma
Oklahoma isn't known for their defense, they ended up firing the DC they had when they played UCLA.
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