Pac-12 Player Strike

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Let the players walk, release them from their scholarships. Next up. I’m sure there are plenty of players drooling to get a chance to take their spots.
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The fable about killing the goose that laid golden eggs comes to mind.
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WSU has already started dismissing players who sign up for this. Only a matter of time before others follow suit.

Does a guy like Manning or Funa really want to stick to his guns, if UO starts down the path of getting rid of guys?
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If any player wants to leave and test the NFL waters they should and cease being a student. They just better beware that that water is full of sharks and they don't have any safety net of being drafted. The agents will rob them, the leeches will suck them dry and the dealers will get them kicked out even if they make it.

How many have been chewed up and spit out by the league over the year even when they were older and wiser and had some kind of help. When the cost of having a football team outweighs the return to the schools they will drop the program and not only will the current students fall but everyone who would have come after them will fall as well. Every player believes he will be a NFL star as it's part of what it takes to make it even to college but look how few actually have any kind of career.
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I’m about to the point of giving up sports. It’s getting tiring. It’s crazy how some of the richest and most well taken care of people can develop a victim’s mentality and become entitled. And regarding the whole 98% of student athletes that don’t go pro, yeah you might benefit economically if you choose a worthwhile major instead of socialism or Asian art history. One thing I will say is I do believe colleges need to train student athletes at important details of life as a pro, like hiring an agent, negotiating endorsement deals, things like that. But these demands are so petty in my opinion.

And the racial justice thing, talk about a trending topic. I’m all for certain aspects of BLM but claiming racism in college athletics where there are usually more African-Americans? I’m just confused and think unfortunate people have been able to label anything they don’t like as racist and get away with it.
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Not sure wazzu can afford to just start releasing players ..they are not exactly talent rich..if i were Rolovich I would probably attempt a more measured approach. Guarantee this will be used as recruiting fodder.
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buckmarkduck wrote:WSU has already started dismissing players who sign up for this. Only a matter of time before others follow suit.

Does a guy like Manning or Funa really want to stick to his guns, if UO starts down the path of getting rid of guys?
Are you sure about that statement? I don't find anything confirming and and it would be a pretty bold move for a new coach.

Edit, just foud the twitter feed of Theo Lawson who reported the story. Maybe more to it than meets the eye.

https://twitter.com/TheoLawson_SR
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greenyellow wrote:What an absolute joke of a list of demands.
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"Ending racial injustice in college sports"

Almost 50% of college football athletes are black. Sounds like white people need more opportunity to be college football players. In 2020, If you're a good football, you play. If you're not a good football player, you don't play. If coaches are mistreating you or not playing because of your skin color, I'll start my own university and I'll take all the players that were treated unjustly because of their skin color, and weren't assessed based on skill level, and destroy everyone. Winning is what matters, whether you're black, white, or whatever. However, I think the racial injustice most college football players are referring to is probably not getting paid or compensated. I don't even know...

"the players wanted an end to performance and academic bonuses for administrators and coaches, and to prohibit "lavish facility expenditures" instead using those funds to preserve all program sports."

Agreed! I think we should also do an estate sale with all the player's facilities, uniforms, and resources. Give the players a small class room with a few dumbbells to do their workouts, and a dark and light uniform combination. +1

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How about if players want to receive 50% of the revenue, OK, but they don’t get scholarships anymore, they have to pay for their own housing, food, traveling expenses to play with the team, and jersey/equipment.
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How about if players want to receive 50% of the revenue, OK, but they don’t get scholarships anymore, they have to pay for their own housing, food, traveling expenses to play with the team, and jersey/equipment.
This.

I'm not completely against players getting paid. But I'm really bothered by how the value of a full-ride scholarship is barely even mentioned in these conversations. Nobody paid my way through UofO -- I got a few scholarships, but nothing huge -- and by the time I'd graduated and spent a year or two on my own, I was already suffocating in credit card debt. (It wasn't even a huge debt... just barely made any money and my paycheck didn't quite cover all of my minimums.)

My life would have been profoundly different had I got to college with no tuition, free housing, free food, free tutors, etc., in order to offset the time I spent pursuing my career. There's so much value in getting a financial free ride at such a crucial moment in life. It's a MASSIVE head start.
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pezsez1 wrote:
How about if players want to receive 50% of the revenue, OK, but they don’t get scholarships anymore, they have to pay for their own housing, food, traveling expenses to play with the team, and jersey/equipment.
This.

I'm not completely against players getting paid. But I'm really bothered by how the value of a full-ride scholarship is barely even mentioned in these conversations. Nobody paid my way through UofO -- I got a few scholarships, but nothing huge -- and by the time I'd graduated and spent a year or two on my own, I was already suffocating in credit card debt. (It wasn't even a huge debt... just barely made any money and my paycheck didn't quite cover all of my minimums.)

My life would have been profoundly different had I got to college with no tuition, free housing, free food, free tutors, etc., in order to offset the time I spent pursuing my career. There's so much value in getting a financial free ride at such a crucial moment in life. It's a MASSIVE head start.
I was lucky to have parents who could afford to pay for my 4 years at Oregon without incurring any debt but I also helped them out by choosing to live at home for much of that time, getting a partial scholarship for a year and also having jobs that allowed me to pay for a new used car, gas, insurance, clothing, and a bunch of other ancillary items. I knew plenty of others who weren't quite as fortunate and had to take out loans to pay for school and they're still paying for it. The value of an full-ride athletic scholarship seems to have been really been devalued by way too many. Yes they've got to do a lot of work to maintain that scholarship but it should be considered a somewhat small price to pay so you don't end up having to leave college with piles of debt. The scholarship athletes should really look at what walk-ons do to keep playing, all without the benefit of having everything paid for.
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maxduck wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:WSU has already started dismissing players who sign up for this. Only a matter of time before others follow suit.

Does a guy like Manning or Funa really want to stick to his guns, if UO starts down the path of getting rid of guys?
Are you sure about that statement? I don't find anything confirming and and it would be a pretty bold move for a new coach.

Edit, just foud the twitter feed of Theo Lawson who reported the story. Maybe more to it than meets the eye.

https://twitter.com/TheoLawson_SR

https://twitter.com/JonahJavad/status/1 ... 83936?s=19
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When I was in college, I was not from a rich family, not from a poor family, I was not gifted academically or athletically and I had to pay for school myself. I wish I had half the talent these athletes do, or the brains the smart ones do, but that was not me. I had to take out student loans and I am white. These athletes seem to not understand how fortunate they are. The free education, free meals, access to trainers that nobody else has access to for free. It must be rough to have so much talent that schools want you to play for them. If you are one of the very select few that make it to the next level then you get all of this plus millions of dollars that 80% of the population does not get. It must be really rough. I would have no problem schools kicking these kids off the teams. I get the concerns about the Covid Virus. I truly do. In regards to the poor black students, I would counter that with what about all the poor students. I simply refuse to make this a black vs white issue. I want equality for ALL STUDENTS. Not just the black students, not just the white students, not just the latino students, not just the asian students. I am fed up with these students thinking somehow they are not getting enough. It is the every day students who do not have the academics or athleticism that comes from poor families that need the help.
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