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Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:52 pm
by greenyellow
Shannon Rhodes and Alyssa Pinto have joined the growing list of defections from the softball program by announcing they're transferring today. Team is now down to 14 players. At this point, White leaving and the new transfer rules are likely driving this more than anything Lombardi has done.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:23 pm
by greenyellow
Oregon is not the only Pac-12 school losing its star players to transfer as ASU has also lost 3 big-time players. All-American pitcher Giselle Juarez, All-Pac-12 1B Danielle Gibson, and FR C Terra McGowan, who was a top-100 player in the 2018 class. Juarez ended up at Oklahoma (along with another transfer pitcher from FIU) while the other two only recently announced. They have the same coaching staff from last season so it's likely just the transfer rules playing havoc with their roster. I think it'll take some time before things settle down throughout softball and many other sports.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:34 am
by Everythingsducky
This is ridiculous. Did the NCAA ever see that this rule can basically bankrupt a team/program? 14 players remaining? Seriously? Thank god this isn’t a revenue sport, but G-zus.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:50 am
by greenyellow
Everythingsducky wrote:This is ridiculous. Did the NCAA ever see that this rule can basically bankrupt a team/program? 14 players remaining? Seriously? Thank god this isn’t a revenue sport, but G-zus.
From reading a site that covers softball news, it sounds like there's around 45 players in the transfer database (which is only accessible by coaches, players, and administrators) that have yet to make a decision as to their next destination. Throw in all the players who've already stated where they're going and it's likely there'll be 100+ players who'll have changed schools since the new rules took effect.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:58 am
by StevensTechU
Everythingsducky wrote:This is ridiculous. Did the NCAA ever see that this rule can basically bankrupt a team/program? 14 players remaining? Seriously? Thank god this isn’t a revenue sport, but G-zus.
Players should get to play and go to school where they want.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:06 am
by Alan
On the other end of it, I wonder what happens to scholarship players at say Texas after a flood of Ducks join ranks? I assume there are only so many scholarships to go around....... does some junior or any present player on scholarship get the boot?

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:27 am
by greenyellow
Texas has 19 players on their fall roster (that's without Burke and Elish added) so to accept any more would mean someone would lose their scholarship money and/or need to transfer.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:34 am
by Duck24
StevensTechU wrote:
Everythingsducky wrote:This is ridiculous. Did the NCAA ever see that this rule can basically bankrupt a team/program? 14 players remaining? Seriously? Thank god this isn’t a revenue sport, but G-zus.
Players should get to play and go to school where they want.
^^^This^^^

If coaches can change jobs on a whim with no real repercussion, players should be able to as well.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:54 am
by UOducksTK1
Duck24 wrote:
StevensTechU wrote:
Everythingsducky wrote:This is ridiculous. Did the NCAA ever see that this rule can basically bankrupt a team/program? 14 players remaining? Seriously? Thank god this isn’t a revenue sport, but G-zus.
Players should get to play and go to school where they want.
^^^This^^^

If coaches can change jobs on a whim with no real repercussion, players should be able to as well.
Aren't there usually contract clauses that do punish coaches for leaving?

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:16 pm
by Duck07
UOducksTK1 wrote: Aren't there usually contract clauses that do punish coaches for leaving?
The difference being that any coach that owes a school money for that move, say a little willie, will have that difference paid for by the new school/org. A transferring student doesn't have the advantage of a cost of moving stipend, or for the case of sports without full scholarships, the difference in in-state vs out-state tuition.

Previous to all of this, a student would lose a year of eligibility and have to sit out during lateral transfers yet at no point would a coach changing jobs have to sit out a year.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 11:35 pm
by shoparound
Terrible, HUGE blow to the team right now. Which probably will make others want to transfer even more.
The new coach will have to regroup and catch some transfers of her own in the next semester, surely there's some JUCO players to snatch up. If not they will have to use club team players around.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:53 am
by oregontrack
sucks, obviously, especially since rhodes was already a hitter you could build a line-up around, but it's a testament to what white built here that we're still a super regional-level team. kleist and balint are going to keep us in every series we play this year. mack, camuso, and cruse are all-conference level talents. we'll need some of the uber-talented freshmen like rachel cid to be good right away. might also need some vets who have never been able to crack the every-game line-up to step up (burks, utecht). and, as mentioned above, we'll probably go after some transfers. i don't expect to challenge ucla and washington at the top of the conference, but our pitching is still going to take us a long way.

obviously this assumes no further transfers.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:27 pm
by nogerO
Something's rotten in Denmark...

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:51 am
by greenyellow
As expected, she's headed to Texas. Iakopo took a visit to Texas with Rhodes so I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up there as well.

Re: Rhodes, Pinto transferring

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:21 pm
by greenyellow
Pinto has transferred to Ole Miss. In this interview, she says the players wanted to stay at Oregon but the culture was different without White (that was always going to be the case with whoever took over) so they decided to transfer:
https://extrainningsoftball.com/college ... -ole-miss/