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This is well said. A stronger USC means a stronger Pac-12 which is GOOD. The conference has become a laughing stock outside of Oregon so our conference wins do not carry the weight they once did. Will it hurt our recruiting? Sure it will, but if there is one thing MC can do is recruit so I do not see a huge drop off for the Ducks.StevensTechU wrote:Lordy, lordy. Doom and gloom crowd sure likes to get ahead of themselves.
Will it make the Pac-12 more competitive? Yes it will. Will a competitive pac-12 be good for Oregon? Almost certainly.
While it's going to make getting the Sewells and Flowes more difficult, it's also going to make getting the Bryce Youngs and DJ Us harder to get. USC keeping top talent at home will have a national impact, because Oregon isnt the only benefactor from their demise- Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Texas, and even Oklahoma have put numerous Californians and other west coasters on their rosters. So that means more parity around the country.
So will this impact Oregon's recruitments? Sure. But same goes for everyone in the top portion of the country. I'd say, though, that a stronger Pac-12 might be better for Oregon in the long run, as more and more players have been looking east and ruling out playing for any Pac-12 school, including the Ducks.
rsbgduck wrote:I’m curious to know what kind of money USuC paid out. I know they are private and we will likely never know. Is it the $95 mil 10yr kinda deal Kelly got at LSU or is it more in the $100-$110 mil range. What does this do as far as pressure for other PAC-12 programs to pay coaches more.
Probably closer to 120M value for Riley with the 2 home purchases, etc.
I was figuring in the $100 mil range but all the other add ons is crazy.Duck07 wrote:rsbgduck wrote:I’m curious to know what kind of money USuC paid out. I know they are private and we will likely never know. Is it the $95 mil 10yr kinda deal Kelly got at LSU or is it more in the $100-$110 mil range. What does this do as far as pressure for other PAC-12 programs to pay coaches more.Probably closer to 120M value for Riley with the 2 home purchases, etc.
And he had 3 future NFL starters transfer in to play QB. Give any decent coach Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts, and Kyler Murray, and they’re going to have some success.northbeachsf wrote:Wow...You would think that USC just hired back Pete Carroll from the comments in this thread. He can recruit and his offense has been outstanding at Oklahoma. However, his defense has been flat out bad at times and I am not sure they could stop a turtle trying to get out of a paper bag.
Don't get me wrong, its a great hire. But he is not going to pull a Pete Carroll.
Well Riley also gets some credit for that and whether you think its deserved or not, the image is that he is responsible for it and that is what will sell with recruits. What will be real interesting is if Caleb Williams transfers and if Malachi stays with Riley or it opens things up.dthomas=ddixon wrote:And he had 3 future NFL starters transfer in to play QB. Give any decent coach Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hurts, and Kyler Murray, and they’re going to have some success.northbeachsf wrote:Wow...You would think that USC just hired back Pete Carroll from the comments in this thread. He can recruit and his offense has been outstanding at Oklahoma. However, his defense has been flat out bad at times and I am not sure they could stop a turtle trying to get out of a paper bag.
Don't get me wrong, its a great hire. But he is not going to pull a Pete Carroll.
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The Steve Smith Rent issue was utter bs. They were in essence punishing Smith for being roommates with his wealthy QB, Matt Leinart.rsbgduck wrote:IMHO one of the first things he needs to change is the self entitlement that is running rampant in that program from coaches to walk-ons. I know that’s part of changing the culture but that has been imbedded in that program for a long time. Pete Carrol did a great job of managing it but in the end Reggie and a few others (WR and a DL guy) bit the hand that fed them in the end.
I get the $100 handshakes are a thing of the past. When I’ve watched USuC over the years since Pete all I see are a bunch of players on the field and not a team. Lincoln Riley even eluded to it on The Herd this morning by saying individual goals will come with team success (paraphrasing) which to me was referring directly to the individuality I see on the field.Duck07 wrote:The Steve Smith Rent issue was utter bs. They were in essence punishing Smith for being roommates with his wealthy QB, Matt Leinart.rsbgduck wrote:IMHO one of the first things he needs to change is the self entitlement that is running rampant in that program from coaches to walk-ons. I know that’s part of changing the culture but that has been imbedded in that program for a long time. Pete Carrol did a great job of managing it but in the end Reggie and a few others (WR and a DL guy) bit the hand that fed them in the end.
As for the other things, most of it is all considered legal now. The need for hundred-dollar handshakes is over with NIL.