Florida resident indicted by NY DA

[dd10snoop28]

Read the indictment and share thoughts.

[woundedknees]

Witch Hunting it is!

Where's the dunk tank, pillory, and the firewood??

[pezsez1]

Another grand jury has indicted "anonymous Florida man," this time in Georgia, and investigators appear to have texts that connect Trump's team with a hacking of rural voting machines.

I get the feeling this, like everything else, will get a pass from so many of Trump's fans. This is getting ridiculous.

EDIT: Need to correct myself here... Florida Man has not officially been confirmed as indicted for Georgia election crimes.. the indictments are still sealed and we don't yet know whether it's him or his people who are named in the indictments.

EDIT no.2: Okay, NOW he's indicted again.

Here's a list of everyone who has been charged in this indictment:

Donald Trump, former US president
Rudy Giuliani, Trump lawyer
Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff
John Eastman, Trump lawyer
Kenneth Chesebro, pro-Trump lawyer
Jeffrey Clark, top Justice Department official
Jenna Ellis, Trump campaign lawyer
Robert Cheeley, lawyer who promoted fraud claims
Mike Roman, Trump campaign official
David Shafer, Georgia GOP chair and fake elector
Shawn Still, fake GOP elector
Stephen Lee, pastor tied to intimidation of election workers
Harrison Floyd, leader of Black Voices for Trump
Trevian Kutti, publicist tied to intimidation of election workers
Sidney Powell, Trump campaign lawyer
Cathy Latham, fake GOP elector tied to Coffee County breach
Scott Hall, tied to Coffee County election system breach
Misty Hampton, Coffee County elections supervisor
Ray Smith, Trump lawyer

At the very least, whoever was responsible for what happened in Coffee County needs to do actual prison time. That simply cannot be tolerated, even if whoever did it has tons of money and is loved by nearly half of the country. Justice must be blind.

[dd10snoop28]

This republic isn’t lasting much longer. It was a good run.

Our own government doing the bidding of our enemies. Destroying America from within.

This isn’t about one man. Never was. It’s about total control over thought and speech.

God bless the remnant.

[pezsez1]

Or maybe Trump should have just taken his L like a man and not tries to steal the election.

Our republic will be fine if we refuse to stand for attacks on our democratic systems.

[dd10snoop28]

Or maybe Trump should have just taken his L like a man and not tries to steal the election.

Our republic will be fine if we refuse to stand for attacks on our democratic systems.

"We shall save democracy by destroying it"

[pezsez1]

Or we could stop making tribalism-fueled excuses for dipshits who try to steal elections.

[dd10snoop28]

Or we could stop making tribalism-fueled excuses for dipshits who try to steal elections.

People have challenged elections since the dawn of America.

"Stealing" is more like when you:
-change election laws without legislative approval in key battleground states
-install illegal dropboxes in areas heavily supporting your candidate
-infuse hundreds of millions of dollars to install NGO's for ballot harvesting and ballot drop boxes in dense urban areas disproportionally supporting your candidate
-illegally extend the amount of days after election where you can receive mail-in ballots without signatures
-work in tandem with all of media, social media, intelligence community, and press (and I mean ALL) to suppress the most damning revelations showing connections between your candidate and foreign countries in the days leading up to the election....
-tell 51 of the highest "intelligence" officials to lie that the foreign corruption story is Russian disinformation, while knowing it isn't.
-have the FBI not disclose that they have verified the authenticity of the "laptop" and its contents since summer of 2019...
-ban/suppress anybody from social media platforms if they raise any of items above
-prosecute anyone who tries to legally challenge any of the above once you win

All you need is a district attorney and citizenry of the mold of Pez, and will be charged criminally for saying those objectively true things. Twisted.

[Duck07]

I get the feeling this, like everything else, will get a pass from so many of Trump's fans. This is getting ridiculous.

Well the first time you care about Democrats being bad actors will be the first - which is why you still don't understand why so many American's don't care about these low-level, slap on the wrist style "crimes." (Not for being a war-criminal or for Kushner/Ivanka directly profiting from his actions while POTUS because then they'd have to equally apply that standard!)

Multiple, corrupt administrations but sure, its the orange man alone who represents the existential threat.

[dd10snoop28]

I get the feeling this, like everything else, will get a pass from so many of Trump's fans. This is getting ridiculous.

Well the first time you care about Democrats being bad actors will be the first - which is why you still don't understand why so many American's don't care about these low-level, slap on the wrist style "crimes." (Not for being a war-criminal or for Kushner/Ivanka directly profiting from his actions while POTUS because then they'd have to equally apply that standard!)

Multiple, corrupt administrations but sure, its the orange man alone who represents the existential threat.

These aren't slap on the wrist crimes dude. He could serve over 300 years in jail in convicted on all the differing charges presented.

DC (95% dem)? Easy conviction.
Fulton County (80% dem)? Easy conviction.
NYC (80% dem)? Easy conviction.

At this point, it's a foregone conclusion that the former president of the US is going to jail right before the election.

What distinguishes America from any of other corrupt, oppressive, and tyrannical countries? Nothing.

The most impressive part is that probably 70% of the country is calloused, or just ignorant, to what is happening and the implications of this to their lives.

The citizenry for the most part has become immoral, unwise, unengaged, and dependent on a government that our Founders tried so hard to keep in check.

[Duck07]

These aren't slap on the wrist crimes dude. He could serve over 300 years in jail in convicted on all the differing charges presented.

What I mean by that is they aren't charging him with major crimes, but minor, process style charges, which is also why it feeds into the "political prosecution" narrative that his supporters have because we've seen 3 consecutive administrations lock children in cages and a civilian kill rate of 90% with drone-strikes, but taking boxes of files as POTUS (but not as VP) is considered over the line.

[dd10snoop28]

These aren't slap on the wrist crimes dude. He could serve over 300 years in jail in convicted on all the differing charges presented.

What I mean by that is they aren't charging him with major crimes, but minor, process style charges, which is also why it feeds into the "political prosecution" narrative that his supporters have because we've seen 3 consecutive administrations lock children in cages and a civilian kill rate of 90% with drone-strikes, but taking boxes of files as POTUS (but not as VP) is considered over the line.

Honest question: do you believe that orange man is on the same level of corruption as Obama/Clinton(s)/Bush/Biden?

Also, the way you are framing it makes it sound like it's only Trump's supporters that see this as a political prosecution. Well,isn't it a problem if it's only his supporters that care?

[Duck07]

These aren't slap on the wrist crimes dude. He could serve over 300 years in jail in convicted on all the differing charges presented.

What I mean by that is they aren't charging him with major crimes, but minor, process style charges, which is also why it feeds into the "political prosecution" narrative that his supporters have because we've seen 3 consecutive administrations lock children in cages and a civilian kill rate of 90% with drone-strikes, but taking boxes of files as POTUS (but not as VP) is considered over the line.

Honest question: do you believe that orange man is on the same level of corruption as Obama/Clinton(s)/Bush/

You are framing it as if it's only Trump's supporters that see this as a political prosecution. Well,isn't it a problem if it's only his supporters that care?

On the same level, No, because those individuals had a better knowledge of how the system worked. For example, most think of Congress as taking bribes for re-election funds as the problem rather than the EXTORTION they use for those campaigns by holding things up in committee.

In regard to pure corruption, Pelosi probably takes the cake just from the sheer wealth that's been created. On a relativity scale, the money that Kusner made from the Saudi Wealth Fund was likely not even worth the heat from it because its a pittance compared to their other revenue streams.

As for the political prosecution, the larger problem is that we've reached this point, not just if one side views it unfavorably or not because of what the consequences could be. At the same time there is a seemingly equal group of people who share Pez's view that these indictments against Trump for minor-level things are in fact a good thing. That doesn't lead to some unification of people but a fracturing.

[dd10snoop28]

These aren't slap on the wrist crimes dude. He could serve over 300 years in jail in convicted on all the differing charges presented.

What I mean by that is they aren't charging him with major crimes, but minor, process style charges, which is also why it feeds into the "political prosecution" narrative that his supporters have because we've seen 3 consecutive administrations lock children in cages and a civilian kill rate of 90% with drone-strikes, but taking boxes of files as POTUS (but not as VP) is considered over the line.

Honest question: do you believe that orange man is on the same level of corruption as Obama/Clinton(s)/Bush/

You are framing it as if it's only Trump's supporters that see this as a political prosecution. Well,isn't it a problem if it's only his supporters that care?

On the same level, No, because those individuals had a better knowledge of how the system worked. For example, most think of Congress as taking bribes for re-election funds as the problem rather than the EXTORTION they use for those campaigns by holding things up in committee.

In regard to pure corruption, Pelosi probably takes the cake just from the sheer wealth that's been created. On a relativity scale, the money that Kusner made from the Saudi Wealth Fund was likely not even worth the heat from it because its a pittance compared to their other revenue streams.

As for the political prosecution, the larger problem is that we've reached this point, not just if one side views it unfavorably or not because of what the consequences could be. At the same time there is a seemingly equal group of people who share Pez's view that these indictments against Trump for minor-level things are in fact a good thing. That doesn't lead to some unification of people but a fracturing.

Yes, my point is that it is a problem that I don't hear from anyone except the former president's supporter ...Like, for example.... I would expect someone like you to be even more vested in this than a zealous supporter of the former president because I assume you understand the long-term implications. I say long-term, but actually, I think are days are numbered a lot sooner than "long-term".

[dd10snoop28]

These aren't slap on the wrist crimes dude. He could serve over 300 years in jail in convicted on all the differing charges presented.

What I mean by that is they aren't charging him with major crimes, but minor, process style charges, which is also why it feeds into the "political prosecution" narrative that his supporters have because we've seen 3 consecutive administrations lock children in cages and a civilian kill rate of 90% with drone-strikes, but taking boxes of files as POTUS (but not as VP) is considered over the line.

Honest question: do you believe that orange man is on the same level of corruption as Obama/Clinton(s)/Bush/

You are framing it as if it's only Trump's supporters that see this as a political prosecution. Well,isn't it a problem if it's only his supporters that care?

On the same level, No, because those individuals had a better knowledge of how the system worked.

Diregarding Trump's lack of knowledge of the syste, you think that Trump is equally corrupt as Obama/Clinton(s)/Bush/Biden?