Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM ESPN)
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
That game was so ugly, even Jerry Falwell Jr. didn't want to watch.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Really excited about the play of Poncho L. at center today and for the future. A couple low snaps on the hurry up drive to end the second quarter but looked great the rest of the game. Really hope Burch comes back. He would really help in the transition to the B1G with his run stopping on the edge. Otherwise a really good effort after a slow start after the long break and a good scripted series by Liberty to start the game.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Maybe seeing the poodles in the playoff causes a few donors to put a few more coins into the Collective to see a few of these guys return.buckmarkduck wrote: Today we saw what having Burch looks like vs the run and not having him vs UW. He is run stuffing DE. Hope the Fr make big jumps by next year.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
I think they already have. Can’t fathom what is being paid out to Gabriel and Moore. Ridiculous haul. Hope the youngin’s pan out on the D-line and secondary. In Lanning I trust. Of those currently on the team, whom (defensively) would you overpay to keep to make sure they stay?Duck07 wrote:Maybe seeing the poodles in the playoff causes a few donors to put a few more coins into the Collective to see a few of these guys return.buckmarkduck wrote: Today we saw what having Burch looks like vs the run and not having him vs UW. He is run stuffing DE. Hope the Fr make big jumps by next year.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Not so sure this stat is relevant to today. Liberty almost ran at will, and Oregon missed several tackles. Liberty was just a victim to falling behind big and had to abandon the run.buckmarkduck wrote:Duck07 wrote:As we go from the best passing conference to one of the top rushing conferences, this is a great accomplishment this year.
Today we saw what having Burch looks like vs the run and not having him vs UW. He is run stuffing DE. Hope the Fr make big jumps by next year.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
In order, probably Burch, Jacobs, Tysheem Johnson and then Bassa but ideally we keep them all because they all can improve their draft stock.Everythingsducky wrote: I think they already have. Can’t fathom what is being paid out to Gabriel and Moore. Ridiculous haul. Hope the youngin’s pan out on the D-line and secondary. In Lanning I trust. Of those currently on the team, whom (defensively) would you overpay to keep to make sure they stay?
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Out of all the game thread posts, this is the game threadiest.squintsdd wrote: Not so sure this stat is relevant to today. Liberty almost ran at will, and Oregon missed several tackles. Liberty was just a victim to falling behind big and had to abandon the run.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
And for someone who's against "snipe posting" that's twice you've made a dig at me. Looks like we're both changing our ways in this thread.Phalanx wrote:Out of all the game thread posts, this is the game threadiest.squintsdd wrote: Not so sure this stat is relevant to today. Liberty almost ran at will, and Oregon missed several tackles. Liberty was just a victim to falling behind big and had to abandon the run.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Liberty ran at will? Their biggest plays early came from passing. If they could run at will, they would have kept running when down 21-7. We shut them down llrettybwell after the fire few series
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Oregon bottled up the quarterback, but other than that they couldn't stop the run very well. Take out salter's and they averaged over 7 ypc, ever with salter's they averaged 6 ypc.. Why stop running when down 21-7? Maybe because historically, running isn't the quickest way to get back into a game that's starting to get away from you.buckmarkduck wrote:Liberty ran at will? Their biggest plays early came from passing. If they could run at will, they would have kept running when down 21-7. We shut them down llrettybwell after the fire few series
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
The ducks allowed one explosion play on the ground outside of garbage time, that was off a weird orbit motion option play on the first drive A play they later stuffed 3 or 4 times.squintsdd wrote:Oregon bottled up the quarterback, but other than that they couldn't stop the run very well. Take out salter's and they averaged over 7 ypc, ever with salter's they averaged 6 ypc.. Why stop running when down 21-7? Maybe because historically, running isn't the quickest way to get back into a game that's starting to get away from you.buckmarkduck wrote:Liberty ran at will? Their biggest plays early came from passing. If they could run at will, they would have kept running when down 21-7. We shut them down llrettybwell after the fire few series
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Their starting running back carried for no fewer than 4 yards only once the entire game, and that was the second to last play of the game for liberty. He ran for over a thousand yards and 17 TDs on the season, and carried the ball 16 times per game before today. Today he ran out only 8 times. Oregon struggled to stop the run when liberty went to their primary back, liberty just abandoned the runspacefrog13x wrote:The ducks allowed one explosion play on the ground outside of garbage time, that was off a weird orbit motion option play on the first drive A play they later stuffed 3 or 4 times.squintsdd wrote:Oregon bottled up the quarterback, but other than that they couldn't stop the run very well. Take out salter's and they averaged over 7 ypc, ever with salter's they averaged 6 ypc.. Why stop running when down 21-7? Maybe because historically, running isn't the quickest way to get back into a game that's starting to get away from you.buckmarkduck wrote:Liberty ran at will? Their biggest plays early came from passing. If they could run at will, they would have kept running when down 21-7. We shut them down llrettybwell after the fire few series
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
Liberty averaged 300 yards rushing per game before tonight. Oregon held them to 168. They rushed 28 times compared to 24 passing. This is not 'abandoning the run'. The stats you are looking at are skewed by a 41-yard run that Cooley had while we were all discussing whether Oregon should take Nix out because the score was 38-6. The non-garbage time runs had a much lower average. Oregon did largely shut down their running game after the first series.squintsdd wrote:Oregon bottled up the quarterback, but other than that they couldn't stop the run very well. Take out salter's and they averaged over 7 ypc, ever with salter's they averaged 6 ypc.. Why stop running when down 21-7? Maybe because historically, running isn't the quickest way to get back into a game that's starting to get away from you.buckmarkduck wrote:Liberty ran at will? Their biggest plays early came from passing. If they could run at will, they would have kept running when down 21-7. We shut them down llrettybwell after the fire few series
Sorry for the snipey-post, but it was so wrong in so many ways, it just seemed to fit the whole game thread hot-take style that so often appears here on game day.
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Re: Fiesta Bowl: #8 Oregon v #23 Liberty (Jan 1, Mon 10 AM E
I'm good with it. Honestly I found it kind of funny.Phalanx wrote:Liberty averaged 300 yards rushing per game before tonight. Oregon held them to 168. They rushed 28 times compared to 24 passing. This is not 'abandoning the run'. The stats you are looking at are skewed by a 41-yard run that Cooley had while we were all discussing whether Oregon should take Nix out because the score was 38-6. The non-garbage time runs had a much lower average. Oregon did largely shut down their running game after the first series.squintsdd wrote:Oregon bottled up the quarterback, but other than that they couldn't stop the run very well. Take out salter's and they averaged over 7 ypc, ever with salter's they averaged 6 ypc.. Why stop running when down 21-7? Maybe because historically, running isn't the quickest way to get back into a game that's starting to get away from you.buckmarkduck wrote:Liberty ran at will? Their biggest plays early came from passing. If they could run at will, they would have kept running when down 21-7. We shut them down llrettybwell after the fire few series
Sorry for the snipey-post, but it was so wrong in so many ways, it just seemed to fit the whole game thread hot-take style that so often appears here on game day.
I should clarify, and did a little bit the post right before yours, they abandoned their primary running back. Only once the entire game did he run for fewer than 4 yards on a carry, and he only ran the ball 8 times. For a back that averaged over 6 ypc, was a 1000+ yards rusher, 17 TDs, and carried the ball 16 times per game before today, he sure didn't get much work. All those numbers scream that they abandoned the run. Oregon's clear focal point was stopping the quarterback, and to that end, they were very effective