With Ekrpe Olomu How Many Spots left

[Supreme]

My source told me they have already called and informed both Lee and Walls that they no longer have any spots in this years class. Remember last year we took 6 DB's, a team can only take so many DB's and both Walls and Lee knew this.

Yeah... No offense, but that sounds like some straight up foogazy-ish garbage. Coaches don't call elite prospects(Lee), who are premier athletes in their class, and tell them to look elsewhere. Especially when they're a package deal with one, and possibly two other elite prospects.

Throwing up the duces to Lee, is essentially throwing up the duces to Farmer. And I don't see that happening this early in the recruiting process.

And you would know this how?

Why would we take more safeties than we need?

Not sure any of us know this.

But the way we are going to get better and stay ahead of the other teams is to recruit stud athletes like we've never done before. I can see maybe telling Walls commit soon or lose your chance since it looks like his measurables are about the same as Ekrpe. However I don't see them telling one of the premier athletes in the country (Lee) that he doesn't have a spot now.

Since these kids are enjoying the recruiting process like they'll never do again in their life, I'm sure coach Kelly also doesn't want to get a reputation of ruining that process for kids that are considering Oregon, but aren't through the whole process yet.

It'd kind of be like USC telling Farmer to look elsewhere because they've already gotten a commitment from Blackwell; and Woods, Prater, and Ambles are already on the roster. Or FSU telling Tony Steward he's SOL and should have committed earlier if he wanted a spot, because Terrance Smith committed and they already have Jeff Luc and Christian Jones on roster. Stuff like that doesn't tend to happen. Coaches tend to sign the talent, and figure out where they'll go later.

I just don't see Kelly and company calling Lee, who's listed as an athlete and could play a number of positions, and telling him he waited too long and no longer has a spot due to Olomu committing. That doesn't make too much sense to me.

And Walls? There's a great possibility he lands in Eugene. Cut him off this early in the process? Why not stockpile defensive talent? I just don't get it.

[MacDuck]

My source told me they have already called and informed both Lee and Walls that they no longer have any spots in this years class. Remember last year we took 6 DB's, a team can only take so many DB's and both Walls and Lee knew this.

Yeah... No offense, but that sounds like some straight up foogazy-ish garbage. Coaches don't call elite prospects(Lee), who are premier athletes in their class, and tell them to look elsewhere. Especially when they're a package deal with one, and possibly two other elite prospects.

Throwing up the duces to Lee, is essentially throwing up the duces to Farmer. And I don't see that happening this early in the recruiting process.

I know you haven't been an Oregon fan for long, but this scenario happened last year. Gabe King was waffling on his choices and Kelly basically pulled his offer because he was toying with Oregon. Get Gabe King and we get Keenan Allen too (a last-minute commitment from Bama to Cal), and from all accounts it sounds like King would have been a Duck if the offer was still valid.

The only difference here is lack of schollies, nothing personal.

Biggus, you've got your facts and timeline incorrect re King & Allen.

1. Comparing King to Lee is way off base. King had verbally committed to our staff (though he wanted it kept quiet so he could announce at an all-star game). Then when it was determined that King wouldn't play in the AS game due to his health, he started waffling. This behavior included not returning our staff's calls, etc. and basically courting other players (Chris Martin & Allen), to consider Cal. This all was happening primarily in Dec. and early January. Kelly & co. finally had enough of King's act and told him he didn't have an offer from us anymore.

Lee isn't a commit to us and it was only a few wks ago that he tripped. Our staff is known for not putting the rush on kids and they aren't doing it with him, Farmer, etc. It's very possible that Olomu could be our last DB recruit, esp at CB, but Lee isn't comparable to King at all.

2. As for Keenan Allen, he was out of the picture for us after the Boise St game. We were the early leader for him, but dad never wanted him to go to Oregon (too far away and fears we didn't pass enough) and he used the BSU debacle to further put a nail in the coffin for Keenan to come here. When most felt King was going to be a Duck it was due to the fact that he was living in Eugene and telling our staff he was going to come. Allen was long out of the picture as a Bama commit by then. He wasn't coming here even at the highest point of optimism re King.
The part you got right was King apparently approached our staff after the offer was pulled and asked them to reconsider, but no dice.

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But we're not taking more safeties than we need. We have two graduating this year and none coming in (that is assuming Coleman moves to OLB and Olumu stays at CB). I have serious doubts that we would just let Lee and especially Walls go. Walls seems to really be considering coming over here. It's not like they're recruiting for other schools like Gabe King...well, maybe Lee is trying to get Gibson with him and Farmer to USC...

But both of those guys could end up being safeties.

We have 2 special team players graduating..... Boyett & Pleasent return

We're currently redshirting Marcus Davis, Erick Dargan, James Scales, & Derrick Malone....... that's 4 to replace 2.

Malone is being groomed to play LB so it's really only 3 to replace 2 at safety.

ya, but I'm guessing he will be a special team player which is essentially what were losing.

Not sure I counted correctly, but I had 10 underclassman at dbs to only 6 upperclassmen (2 of which are rovers) were really only losing Taldadge Jackson this year and Anthony Gildon, Javes Lewis, & Eddie Pleasent after next year.

Also aren't we grey shirting Isaac Dixon....... and if so doesn't that mean his scholy goes against this class. He's yet another potential safety/special team player. http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=8&c=1&nid=4208524

[vagusnerve]

So how many scholarships do we give out this year then??? Can we take 25 guys?

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It'd kind of be like USC telling Farmer to look elsewhere because they've already gotten a commitment from Blackwell; and Woods, Prater, and Ambles are already on the roster. Or FSU telling Tony Steward he's SOL and should have committed earlier if he wanted a spot, because Terrance Smith committed and they already have Jeff Luc and Christian Jones on roster. Stuff like that doesn't tend to happen. Coaches tend to sign the talent, and figure out where they'll go later.

I just don't see Kelly and company calling Lee, who's listed as an athlete and could play a number of positions, and telling him he waited too long and no longer has a spot due to Olomu committing. That doesn't make too much sense to me.

And Walls? There's a great possibility he lands in Eugene. Cut him off this early in the process? Why not stockpile defensive talent? I just don't get it.

I would agree with you most years.... and I'm with you on offering Lee as a WR

but I can see how we don't have any room for more db's. The coaches have done precisely what you said and stock piled talent in our defensive backfield. We still have 2 years of Boyett and 3 years of Marcus Davis. We're also redshirting a Erick Dargan who was a highly recruited safety...... I doubt Walls is more talented than those 3.

We have some major deficiency's on our roster and our db's are loaded.

[maxduck]

Don't forget Isaac Dixon is a greyshirt but I assume he would count against 2010.

[buckmarkduck]

I think after the UA game we will be full at WR, Kelly and the JC kid are thought to be committing either on the trip, or shortly after and Blackmon seems like a done deal just want to commit at the AA game. We need DL and DE big time, so expect the coaches to focus on that, also I'm curious to see what Randall did to get in trouble. It may affect what the coaches do.

[yeahboyd]

Staff is recruiting Lee as an athlete

[buckmarkduck]

Sorry guys i made a mistake, it wasn't Lee they told they don't have room for, it was McClure 4* CB from Vista. I was drunk last night when I got the info haha.

[MacDuck]

Sorry guys i made a mistake, it wasn't Lee they told they don't have room for, it was McClure 4* CB from Vista. I was drunk last night when I got the info haha.

Thanks for the clarification BMD. That makes a lot more sense.

p.s. stick to lite egg nog during the upcoming holidays and stay off the hard stuff.....

[Phenom]

It's amazing that we can tell 4* recruits (McClure), "Thanks, but no thanks." Oh how far we've gotten. Thank you, Chip Kelly!

Rivals compares Lee to Champ Bailey. I don't think we're at the point were we can turn players like that down. lol

[greenyellow]

Sorry guys i made a mistake, it wasn't Lee they told they don't have room for, it was McClure 4* CB from Vista. I was drunk last night when I got the info haha.

McClure makes sense in them not continuing to pursue and it doesn't seem as if they were ever really high on him. Lee could be a WR so he has more utility than McClure.

[MacDuck]

Scout west coast guy Brandon Huffman, did confirm tonight, over on eDuck, that our coaches have told McClure that we're done at CB with Ifo's commit.

[Howry]

"I'd be absolutely shocked if the coaches turned down Walls and especially Lee, while having no problem taking a guy who hasn't played for 2 years because of injuries (Garrick) and a project (Wilson)."

That does seem kind of wierd to me to.


From Scout on Avery Walls
"Walls plans to major in business/entrepreneurship and reports a 3.3 GPA and opted not to disclose his scores on the SAT and ACT, but says he has plans to retake the SAT for sure on Nov. 6. "

GPA looks good but its self reported and he wouldnt disclose his SAT and ACT so possibly it isnt what is being reported and he may not qualify anyway?

[vagusnerve]

"I'd be absolutely shocked if the coaches turned down Walls and especially Lee, while having no problem taking a guy who hasn't played for 2 years because of injuries (Garrick) and a project (Wilson)."

That does seem kind of wierd to me to.


From Scout on Avery Walls
"Walls plans to major in business/entrepreneurship and reports a 3.3 GPA and opted not to disclose his scores on the SAT and ACT, but says he has plans to retake the SAT for sure on Nov. 6. "

GPA looks good but its self reported and he wouldnt disclose his SAT and ACT so possibly it isnt what is being reported and he may not qualify anyway?

well that's pure speculation dude.

but it is a mystery about Garrick and Wilson.

by all accounts, Wilson is a sleeper... so the coaches must like his upside.
but Garrick is on his second knee surgery, already. i mean, that's a big risk. he doesn't have any other offers so i hear, so basically, we're offering a sleeper with no offers coming off two knee surgeries with an uncertain future. and then dissing a guy like Walls.

something doesn't fit there. maybe we don't have all the info?