Devoe Joseph transferring from Minnesota to Oregon

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Romar's done it. Calipari's done it. It definitely is not uncommon, especially when a new coach comes in. A lot of times, coaches want to bring in their own players. My guess is that Altman isn't very impressed with what he's seen from Sim nor Teondre. Altman wouldn't necessarily "force" Teondre out, but he'd probably give him a hint that he won't get much playing time if he decides to stay here. Coaches encourage players to transfer all the time.
It actually is uncommon, and a recruiting nightmare. Calipari is an exception to most rules, as many of the recruits he brings in (that matter, I guess) know they're one-and-done or in no jeopardy of ever losing a spot. Romar took a ton of heat for what he did and suffered because of it, but he's been able to turn his program around the last 2-3 years because he sits on a talent gold mine. As for Teondre imparticular, as you'll say further down, he's been forced to play 2/3 hybrid and I see no reason why he minutes will suffer to any great extent next season. He'll still get a ton of those minutes Singler sits for, and there should be more to go around as Singler might be forced to play inside more.

There's also a difference between "encouraging" players to leave, as you're now suggesting, and flat out yanking Sim's scholarship and telling Teondre to hit the road, as you said earlier. Altman could "encourage" anything he wants, but if they say no, he's going to have a public relations crisis if he still does anything else.
We'll see. Altman absolutely invited him here. I don't think anyone really expected him to contribute this year. Kind of odd to recruit a raw player from a foreign country and then bail on him after a year.
The problem here is that you seem to want to pick players off the current roster who contribute (Sim, Teondre) but the most obvious choice, and the easiest player to extract, would be "the Big German". It was kind of odd to bring him in in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised at all if there was an agreement made before the season that the UO would fit the bill for a free year of schooling and, barring an extreme improvement in play, one year only. This kid is never going to do anything, and we had openings. Kid clearly isn't a diamond in the rough, and he has no reason to be here.
Teondre is a SG, he's only playing SF out of necessity. Since Jamil Wilson, Matt Humphrey, and Josh Crittle transferred and Mike Dunigan left the program, Oregon has had to play guys out of position. Joevan Catron is absolutely not a center. Singler has played PF when Oregon has gone small. Both Nared and Jacob have played center, even though they are clearly PF's
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I agree with all of this, but Teondre isn't going to move back to SG next year, because we still have no 3's outside of EJ and the 2-guard position is going to be a lot more crowded with Brown and Kingma coming in, plus, apparently, this Minnesota kid. Jacob IS a 4, I agree, but he's going to play center again next year because he'll be a much better option than Kuemper will be.
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Former 4-star SG. Definitely fills a need.
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Re: Devoe Joseph transferring from Minnesota to Oregon

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Why would we take another guard!? It makes since if he's walking on, but giving another scholarship to a guard is a mistake.
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Because we're so dang talented at guard already?

Seriously though, I get what you're saying, but if he's only got one year to play, and we're not expected to bring in any other bigs outside Kuemper, it doesn't matter.
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Boom wrote:Why would we take another guard!? It makes since if he's walking on, but giving another scholarship to a guard is a mistake.
He's better than any guard on the current roster and will likely end up being the 2nd best guard on the team next season (after Brown).
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Re: Devoe Joseph transferring from Minnesota to Oregon

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According to the Resistor Gag, there are currently 3 schollies available... Believe it or don't.
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Re: Devoe Joseph transferring from Minnesota to Oregon

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oregontrack wrote:Because we're so dang talented at guard already?

Seriously though, I get what you're saying, but if he's only got one year to play, and we're not expected to bring in any other bigs outside Kuemper, it doesn't matter.
Is he coming in this year or next?

we're already bringing in 3 guards next year.
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woundedknees wrote:According to the Resistor Gag, there are currently 3 schollies available... Believe it or don't.
Pretty sure we only have one more scholly to offer for this years class. Hopefully it goes to Daniels.
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Re: Devoe Joseph transferring from Minnesota to Oregon

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Boom wrote:
oregontrack wrote:Because we're so dang talented at guard already?

Seriously though, I get what you're saying, but if he's only got one year to play, and we're not expected to bring in any other bigs outside Kuemper, it doesn't matter.
Is he coming in this year or next?

we're already bringing in 3 guards next year.
Sounds like he'll be here in December, so next season. My point was that it does not appear we are going to be bringing in another other big man, so adding another guard to the class doesn't matter. All anyone does is bitch about how untalented our perimeter is, what's the harm in bringing in a little bit more?
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