dthomas=ddixon wrote:Part of me wants us to end up in the BIG12. Financially the B1G is obviously where it’s at but that conference is so boring. Playing in the BIG12 would be a ton of fun.
Big 12 is largely a bunch of shitholes to visit though. At least the B1G would still have LA, Chicago, and some other stadiums with tradition to visit. There would be 0 places I'd be excited to visit in the Big 12.
You call Texas shitholes while saying Chicago and LA are nice I’ve been to both, and would rather hang out in Texas. LA is nice, if about 8million people moved out.
Eh, I’ve been to all 3 places numerous times. We aren’t talking about Austin, San Antonio, or Dallas. We’re talking about Lubbock, Waco and Houston. There’s a lot more to do and see in LA or Chicago than Morgantown, Lubbock, Stillwater, etc. I’m not looking for a place to move to, but a place to spend a weekend in. My wife will be thrilled to have another excited to go to the Magnolia Silos in Waco. That’s about all the Big 12 locations have to offer.
Edit: forgot about TCU being in Fort Worth. Guess that’s ok. My general consensus is still that I’d rather travel to more B1G locations than Big 12.
I have very little interest I ever going back to Chicago, and even less I treat going back there in November. Now visiting Wisconsin , happy valley, Columbus and Michigan would be fun. But I’ve also heard the little Apple is actually an awesome town to visit for a game, Waco has some stuff to do, and Austin isn’t far.
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Sucks that Colorado is leaving. My preference is to hold on to the Pac 10 of my youth, but my favorite theory right now is that the dominoes are starting to fall because Oregon has been talking to the Big 10, and Colorado and others heard about it and are now scrambling.
I’m really curious to see how this ends up with Oregon. Ultimately the blame falls on PAC-12 leadership, the PAC-12 has been a joke under Larry Scott, Kliavkoff has been all talk and no action so I’m not surprised at what has taken place. Colorado had to do what’s best for them, I don’t blame them at all for having 0 trust in Kliavkoff. To me Kliavkoff is like Michael Scott in the healthcare episode of the Office, he promises the employees a big surprise by the end of the day, at 5:00 they ask for the big surprise and he just does a never-ending drumroll, one by one the employees leave as they realize he was full of BS. That is exactly how this is starting to feel with Kliavkoff. He saw the pay and perks Larry Scott for doing nothing and thought it looked like a good gig and now the teams re realizing he was full of BS and they need to leave.
Now we need to hope Oregon still can manage a good deal with the B1G, maybe the smaller schools throwing a fit will help Oregon’s case and the B1G would even consider kicking out a smaller school and replacing them with Oregon and Washington.
OregonFan4Life wrote:I’m really curious to see how this ends up with Oregon. Ultimately the blame falls on PAC-12 leadership, the PAC-12 has been a joke under Larry Scott, Kliavkoff has been all talk and no action so I’m not surprised at what has taken place. Colorado had to do what’s best for them, I don’t blame them at all for having 0 trust in Kliavkoff. To me Kliavkoff is like Michael Scott in the healthcare episode of the Office, he promises the employees a big surprise by the end of the day, at 5:00 they ask for the big surprise and he just does a never-ending drumroll, one by one the employees leave as they realize he was full of BS. That is exactly how this is starting to feel with Kliavkoff. He saw the pay and perks Larry Scott for doing nothing and thought it looked like a good gig and now the teams re realizing he was full of BS and they need to leave.
Now we need to hope Oregon still can manage a good deal with the B1G, maybe the smaller schools throwing a fit will help Oregon’s case and the B1G would even consider kicking out a smaller school and replacing them with Oregon and Washington.
Hanson was terrible also, and I think he was around for the 00’s and maybe 90’s. The lack of leadership for decades doomed the pac unfortunately. The biggest killer was the day they allowed Utah and CU to vote not to add Oklahoma, Ok Star and Texas. You add them, and we are a haves and not a have not.
Would be happy at this point to see Colorado frick off to another conference. Team has been crap for going on two decades and their online fanbase is 100% worshiping at the knees of a false idol head coach.
The Utes, on the other hand, have been kicking ass and taking names since coming onboard. Whittingham is the football God the Buffs dream about in their sleep.
Unfortunately, all of this conference alignment stuff is not about the players, its about the $$$.
Rumors heating up about Oregon/Washington to the Big 12. Not sure how I feel about this but it's probably the best option we realistically have at this point.
And again, let's not blame USC/UCLA/Colorado for this. The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of Larry Scott and his successor. USC/UCLA/Colorado can only control so much and they're doing what's best for them given the circumstances. What a sad ending to a once great conference if this is indeed how things go down.
ducks5ever wrote:Rumors heating up about Oregon/Washington to the Big 12. Not sure how I feel about this but it's probably the best option we realistically have at this point.
I looked and I don't see any rumors about Oregon/UW to the Big-12. I've heard people say it, but I've not seen that reported or referenced. Not saying it's not out there, but links would be appreciated.
That would be really weird if that were to happen, especially because Oregon and Washington seemed more content staying in a smaller (non-expanded) Pac-12 conference where they'd have much easier roads to the playoff.
I'd understand taking a path to the B1G, but the Big 12 is hardly an elite conference and a sideways move at best.
buckmarkduck wrote:The dream scenario is UW blinks and goes to the Big 12, we get into the BIG
Nah. All things aside, I want to at least have a shot to kick their ass annually. Best UO rivalry, and at least the last 25 years for them. Tho they would never admit it. Apologies to the Beav’s, but I would rather be guaranteed an annual game vs. the puppies.
pezsez1 wrote:I looked and I don't see any rumors about Oregon/UW to the Big-12. I've heard people say it, but I've not seen that reported or referenced. Not saying it's not out there, but links would be appreciated.
The Mark Hiver guy if you want to believe him. But hey, the Big 12 is actually his specialty. Geoff Schwartz also speculated on it too. I'm not going to chase down every nobody who says stuff but the rumors are out there.
Big 12 is better than no conference. You cant just assume that everyone else in the conference will stay put. And sure, we can always add programs to hit a number to sustain a conference, but adding more schools that aren't on the same tier as us will just continue to dilute our brand value, and pay us far less than what we deserve while subsidizing those lower tier schools.
pezsez1 wrote:
That would be really weird if that were to happen, especially because Oregon and Washington seemed more content staying in a smaller (non-expanded) Pac-12 conference where they'd have much easier roads to the playoff.
you dont know that (and neither do i)
pezsez1 wrote:
I'd understand taking a path to the B1G, but the Big 12 is hardly an elite conference and a sideways move at best.
Such a path most likely doesnt exist. Any competent UW/UO administration would've taken that path months ago if it existed
