USC @ #6 Oregon (Nov. 11, Sat 7:30 PM Fox)

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5$ wrote:If they're good coaches the USC defense should probably see a boost but it won't be enough to slow Oregon
I bet Donte Williams will put his hat in the ring for interim-DC. I want to say that he's a competent coach (but he's still a snake)
They already chose two other coaches to share the role and elevated former Safety Taylor Mays to a new position.

You can try and simplify the scheme but you can't fix core issues.
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Duck07 wrote:
ducks5ever wrote:
5$ wrote:If they're good coaches the USC defense should probably see a boost but it won't be enough to slow Oregon
I bet Donte Williams will put his hat in the ring for interim-DC. I want to say that he's a competent coach (but he's still a snake)
They already chose two other coaches to share the role and elevated former Safety Taylor Mays to a new position.

You can try and simplify the scheme but you can't fix core issues.

They have some easy fixes though. Vs uw they kept having 3 DL stunt to the right side of uw center, and the de go 5 yards outside the RT. The lb would also drop, leaving a giant hole for uw to run through. It was the dumbest D I’ve ever seen. But that s why uw had 199 yards before contact on the ground.
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ducks5ever wrote:
5$ wrote:If they're good coaches the USC defense should probably see a boost but it won't be enough to slow Oregon
I bet Donte Williams will put his hat in the ring for interim-DC. I want to say that he's a competent coach (but he's still a snake)

SC fans hate him as much as Grinch. They want him fired also.
Yeah, partly because he has been losing recruiting battles to Lanning and Co.
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I’m shocked Oregon is currently a 15.5pt favorite. I just don’t see UO getting enough stops to end up 2+ td’s ahead of USC. I’d love it if it happens, and ND showed it can be done, but we’ll likely need to start hot and finish nearly every drive with 7 just to stay in front.


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> I just don’t see UO getting enough stops

Notre Dame got plenty of stops. Utah did, too. Oregon's defense since both Khyree Jackson and Jacobs have been playing together is stellar; certainly better than Notre Dame's or Utah's.
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whosyourwally wrote:I’m shocked Oregon is currently a 15.5pt favorite. I just don’t see UO getting enough stops to end up 2+ td’s ahead of USC. I’d love it if it happens, and ND showed it can be done, but we’ll likely need to start hot and finish nearly every drive with 7 just to stay in front.


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Oregon average pts scored home: 55.8
Oregon average pts allowed home: 13.2

USC scoring road games: (Average 40 pts)

@AZ St. 42 (W)
@Colorado 48 (W)
@Notre Dame 20 (L)
@Cal 50 (W)

USC soring vs. top 4 defenses: (average 34.25 pts.)

Utah (9) 32 (L)
Notre Dame (15) 20 (L)
Arizona (28) 43 (W)
Washington (46) 42 (L)

(Oregon defense is #11)

My projection is 45-28, so a 17 pt spread.

Oregon could exceed 50 pts fairly easily if they try to make a statement.

The USC defense could show a little better or implode. Big game with a lot on the line is not the best place to implement major changes!

I think this is a statement game for Oregon's defense. It would be awesome to hold USC to a season low!
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So far, the Oregon defense has done the worst against teams with a good passing game. It feels like USC matches up against the Ducks better than other teams like Utah did. I expect a high-scoring game, but would love to be surprised by a solid performance from the Oregon secondary. Hopefully our D-line can cause havoc and put pressure on Williams without letting him squirt through like he does against everyone.
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Phalanx wrote:So far, the Oregon defense has done the worst against teams with a good passing game. It feels like USC matches up against the Ducks better than other teams like Utah did. I expect a high-scoring game, but would love to be surprised by a solid performance from the Oregon secondary. Hopefully our D-line can cause havoc and put pressure on Williams without letting him squirt through like he does against everyone.
Hopefully we can put him on his back several times and hurry him a lot.
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Phalanx wrote:So far, the Oregon defense has done the worst against teams with a good passing game. It feels like USC matches up against the Ducks better than other teams like Utah did. I expect a high-scoring game, but would love to be surprised by a solid performance from the Oregon secondary. Hopefully our D-line can cause havoc and put pressure on Williams without letting him squirt through like he does against everyone.

Sanders was #2 in the country when we played thin. We held him to 90yards until the backups went in. WSU had a bunch of yards, but honestly 100 came on the last couple drives. Shough killed us with his legs mostly.
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buckmarkduck wrote:
Phalanx wrote:So far, the Oregon defense has done the worst against teams with a good passing game. It feels like USC matches up against the Ducks better than other teams like Utah did. I expect a high-scoring game, but would love to be surprised by a solid performance from the Oregon secondary. Hopefully our D-line can cause havoc and put pressure on Williams without letting him squirt through like he does against everyone.

Sanders was #2 in the country when we played thin. We held him to 90yards until the backups went in. WSU had a bunch of yards, but honestly 100 came on the last couple drives. Shough killed us with his legs mostly.
We were also missing Florence and Jackson against WSU. Ducks didn’t come out looking sharp but WSU also took advantage of the injuries in Oregon’s secondary.

Really the only two games besides WSU where the secondary hasn’t looked good was against Texas Tech which was largely giving up big plays due to jitters and Washington who has the best passing offense in the nation AND Lanning and Tosh didn’t have the best defensive strategy with trying to blitz Penix and putting Florence and Jackson on islands against Odumze and Polk. That’s exactly what Washington wants opposing defenses to do.

Caleb Williams is dynamic, but outside of Branch the USC receivers aren’t that great this year. With a healthy Oregon defense I don’t think they’ll completely shut down the USC offense but they’ll get more than enough stops to win this game considering the offense should score at will.
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Of all the games that might be left on our regular season schedule -- and I'm including a conference championship rematch with UW in this statement -- USC concerns me the most.

USC's offense is the highest-ceiling unit we'll face until the playoffs (if we get there). A unit with that much talent (led by a Heisman winner who you'd think would be extremely motivated) is always going to be dangerous regardless of the quality of our defense. I'm also a bit wary of Grinch being fired and what that could do to pump up USC's defense. You see time and time again in college football when a coach is fired and the players rise up and win their next game. I expect those guys to be fired up and perhaps even put in better positions to make plays.

I'm glad we're playing this game at home. I do think we win by at least 10 points. This is one of those games though where the Ducks can't afford a slow start.

Another thing I'll be watching during this game... Camden Lewis. He improved so much after his freshman year, but I wonder if he has a case of the yips this year. That was so weird against Cal for Lanning to run him out for a 53-yard FG attempt (would have been a career long) rather than go for it on 4th and 6 when we'd been moving the ball pretty easily. Seems like Lanning was using a low-risk situation to potentially give him a jolt of confidence. We need Camden to be drilling his kicks if we're to win games in the postseason (or in a rematch with UW).
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I totally discount games where the corners were injured and Jacobs wasn't playing. The defense is healthy and playing at a level last seen in 2005 and 1994. I also don't buy the idea that all of a sudden USC will be motivated now that they are out of the CFP picture. Oregon OTOH will be sky high. Something similar to the Colorado or Utah games wouldn't surprise me at all.
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USC has a QB, and average at best WR unit. They aren’t anywhere near as good as UW or UO WRs. Their OL is middle of the road in the conference. The RB are solid but they don’t use them enough. The D is one of the 2-3 worst in the conference.
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buckmarkduck wrote:USC has a QB, and average at best WR unit. They aren’t anywhere near as good as UW or UO WRs. Their OL is middle of the road in the conference. The RB are solid but they don’t use them enough. The D is one of the 2-3 worst in the conference.
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I don't see this as a game to be worried about winning. I see this as a game to be worried about how much of a statement they can make. If the defense can shutdown USC, and I think they can, it will solidify in all the voters minds that they belong above teams like Texas and Alabama
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