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I continue to not understand why Manning gets snaps over Reed. His measurables are better for certain, but he's a significantly worse corner.
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StevensTechU wrote:I continue to not understand why Manning gets snaps over Reed. His measurables are better for certain, but he's a significantly worse corner.
Neither should be starting on a championship contending team though, I don’t think the results change if Reed plays over Manning, but Manning was out of position way too many times. I think Tyrell Crosby’s tweet about selfish football was mainly directed at Manning.
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I think we need to improve the guard position next year, I won’t miss Jones and I hope someone better than Harper starts next year.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:I think we need to improve the guard position next year, I won’t miss Jones and I hope someone better than Harper starts next year.
Nishad Strother should be healthy and available for a couple seasons, right? Then you'd see Harper, Poncho, Strother and maybe Iuli rotate at the two guard spots. If Iuli still isn't capable, I think you move him to DL.

Lanning's staff hasn't missed on recruiting much, but offensive line and QB are definitely the softer positions. Been good in the portal, but high school recruiting not-so-much (exception: Conerly and Poncho).
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StevensTechU wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:I think we need to improve the guard position next year, I won’t miss Jones and I hope someone better than Harper starts next year.
Nishad Strother should be healthy and available for a couple seasons, right? Then you'd see Harper, Poncho, Strother and maybe Iuli rotate at the two guard spots. If Iuli still isn't capable, I think you move him to DL.

Lanning's staff hasn't missed on recruiting much, but offensive line and QB are definitely the softer positions. Been good in the portal, but high school recruiting not-so-much (exception: Conerly and Poncho).

To be fair, the 2022 QB class has looked disappointing overall. Manning is meh and Moore can’t seem to throw it to his guys
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StevensTechU wrote:I continue to not understand why Manning gets snaps over Reed. His measurables are better for certain, but he's a significantly worse corner.
Neither should be starting on a championship contending team though, I don’t think the results change if Reed plays over Manning, but Manning was out of position way too many times. I think Tyrell Crosby’s tweet about selfish football was mainly directed at Manning.
Reed blended in this year. Manning stuck out because if the ball was thrown his way, 75% chance he's getting flagged. Reed played a lot of good football at Colorado last year, so the ability is there.
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A bit of a rebuilding year for us heading into the B1G. QB transfer could change that.

Biggest need after QB is clearly safety and corner. Guys that can cover. They were bad this year, but UW and USC were the only teams that could really consistently exploit it. Not sure where Daylen Austin will be with his development by next year.

Also curious where Jurrion Dickey fits in in year 2. (sort of year 1.5 as he was still hurt to start the year).
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StevensTechU wrote:I continue to not understand why Manning gets snaps over Reed. His measurables are better for certain, but he's a significantly worse corner.
Neither should be starting on a championship contending team though, I don’t think the results change if Reed plays over Manning, but Manning was out of position way too many times. I think Tyrell Crosby’s tweet about selfish football was mainly directed at Manning.
Reed blended in this year. Manning stuck out because if the ball was thrown his way, 75% chance he's getting flagged. Reed played a lot of good football at Colorado last year, so the ability is there.
You know way more than I do so I’ll definitely take your word for it, I will definitely agree Manning did not look good. I heard someone say he was very undisciplined in how he failed to trust the safeties, did you see anything like that at all?
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I wouldn't rate the returning group at CB necessarily "great"; but, if everyone returns it's got four guys in Florence, Manning, Reed, and Bridges who all have P5 starting experience (and it wouldn't exactly be crazy to hope Florence makes a jump next year). It's also bringing in Laulea the #2 overall JC player at an interesting 6-4 and 185 ; and, in Pleasant (#105), Austin (#134), Fields (#90), and Ify (#127) it's got four young CBs all top 130 prospects.

Friday night the CBs probably left some disappointed; but, with Penix and his WRs, when they showed up motivated, they tended to throw it around on everyone. I know Manning got beat; but, across the two UW games, Khyree got beat, Reed got beat, Bridges got beat, Williams got beat, everyone got beat up a bit. Maybe Manning has been a bit "handsy" but so is the UW's Muhammed, and while he gets caught a lot, he doesn't a lot as well -- and very well may end up 1st team All Conference (maybe Manning needs to learn to hide it better?).

While far from just a CB stat, Oregon did finish #17 in the nation in pass efficiency defense; and, that is while playing Penix twice (#1 in yards per game), Ward (#4 in passing yards per game), Williams (#7), Sanders (#9), and Schager (#20). So playing 6 top 20 ypg passers in 13 games means the stat isn't just a result of a favorable schedule to defend.

I am more worried about the safety spot. REALLY hope Tysheem is up for another season in Eugene.

I find it sort of odd, for a school that for a number of years was known to have very good safeties: Chung, Boyett, Ward, Keith Lewis, Matthew Harper, Patterson, Dargan, JD Nelson, etc. (not to mention Sherman, Cota, Figueras, etc.), it sure seems the safety position has sort of dropped into mediocrity since maybe about 2013 (ten classes minus 2023 -- too soon) with the notable exception of maybe Breeze in 2016 and Holland and McKinley in 2018?

A list of guys brought in since 2013 at safety:

2013

Tyree Robinson
Chris Seisay

2014

Mattrell McGraw
Dominique Harrison
Glen Ihenacho
Khalil Oliver

2015

Kylan Kane
Jihree Stewart

2016

BRADY BREEZE
Brenden Schooler

2017

Jordan John
Billy Gibson
Nick Pickett (I guess was ok)

2018

JEVON HOLLAND
VERONE McKINLEY
Haki Woods
Steve Stephens (Maybe ok)

2019

Jamal Hill

2020

JJ Greenfield
Bennett Williams (JC a bit controversial figure but I thought ok)
Jordan Happle

2021

David Daymon
Johnathan Flowe

2022

Jahlil Tucker
Khamari Terrell
Trejon Williams

No wonder on paper we are looking at possibly two rFR starting at safety. What's the story in recruiting here? Not only a good degree on guys who didn't develop, only 3 recruits rated inside the top 200 nationally in Holland (138), Tucker (75), and Robinson (152).
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Another thing to consider, what in the world is going on with Brian Addison? Sadly with him Oregon might have beaten the Huskies both times. Is he coming back next year? All I’ve ever heard is that he’s away for “personal reasons”.
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OregonFan4Life wrote:Another thing to consider, what in the world is going on with Brian Addison? Sadly with him Oregon might have beaten the Huskies both times. Is he coming back next year? All I’ve ever heard is that he’s away for “personal reasons”.
Rumor I heard is he was upset with his pt and quit. But again rumor
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buckmarkduck wrote:
OregonFan4Life wrote:Another thing to consider, what in the world is going on with Brian Addison? Sadly with him Oregon might have beaten the Huskies both times. Is he coming back next year? All I’ve ever heard is that he’s away for “personal reasons”.
Rumor I heard is he was upset with his pt and quit. But again rumor
Not that it has any bearing, but I heard he was still in Eugene.

I know he has been through a lot. Both parents are deceased and I am not 100% certain but there were some rumors Addison had a child as well.

The rumor mill tends to run rampant but the only thing I know for certain is the unfortunate situation with his parents.


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Oregon's clear weakness this year was the secondary. Lanning was able to cover over it most of the season, but against probably the best passing attack in the country, we saw the breakdown twice. So I would hope that if scholarship spots open up, they will target the best DB's they can find. Also, I loved Troy and Tez this year, but to play the big-time football Oregon aspires to, we are going to need some stouter receivers. Not sure those can be found in the portal, but hopefully Oregon has now demonstrated that Eugene is a good destination for wide receivers.

Oh, and a quarterback, obviously. It seems like Ward would be an easy plug-in. Hopefully that works out.
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Didn't know I wanted Dillon Gabriel but it turns out I do.
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