Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?

[woundedknees]

Last time I checked, a 300 lb DT hits just as hard whether he is playing for a faith based university as he would for a secular one.

Seems to me this thread has been seriously bushwhacked.

I have to agree that historically, as well as from a financial standpoint, Colorado would be a better choice.

I notice that religious affiliation of the opponent has never prevented PAC 10 programs from participating in OOC games, or any post-season bowls or tournaments.

[oregontrack]

One more, then back to football. I promise.

Evolution has been proven, actually.

Alright, back to football.

One more.

Evolution has been proven to a certain extent but it's not a law by any means.

OK, back to football.

Evolution itself has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, I was just getting cute with my words. I knew he meant evolution in a beginning-of-life sense. Basically, it just comes down to whether or not one believes in science and facts, or if one believes in a fairy tale about a boogeyman living in the clouds creating the Earth with a wiggle of the nose 6,000 years ago, man walking with the dinosaurs, and having complete faith in a book written buy a bunch of men that has been altered several times over the last 2,000 years, which also just so happens to coincidentally be the last time anyone saw God walking around.

Damnit. I mean, CU is the obvious choice here. Baylor has dynamite 4x400m teams in track and that 6'7 chick in hoops, but that's about it. CU has Boulder, which is bea-u-ti-ful in the fall.

[oregontrack]

Last time I checked, a 300 lb DT hits just as hard whether he is playing for a faith based university as he would for a secular one.

Seems to me this thread has been seriously bushwhacked.

I have to agree that historically, as well as from a financial standpoint, Colorado would be a better choice.

I notice that religious affiliation of the opponent has never prevented PAC 10 programs from participating in OOC games, or any post-season bowls or tournaments.

It would be a huge issue for BYU, who does not participate in sports on Sunday.

Good point.

[shear_j]

Last time I checked, a 300 lb DT hits just as hard whether he is playing for a faith based university as he would for a secular one.

Seems to me this thread has been seriously bushwhacked.

I have to agree that historically, as well as from a financial standpoint, Colorado would be a better choice.

I notice that religious affiliation of the opponent has never prevented PAC 10 programs from participating in OOC games, or any post-season bowls or tournaments.

I agree. I can't wait for the season to get closer so we can talk about stuff that actually matters. Although biggus does raise a good point about the lds'ers not playing on Sunday. About the only good religious based point that has been raised in all four pages of this thread.

[dthomas=ddixon]

One more, then back to football. I promise.

Evolution has been proven, actually.

Alright, back to football.

One more.

Evolution has been proven to a certain extent but it's not a law by any means.

OK, back to football.

Evolution itself has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, I was just getting cute with my words. I knew he meant evolution in a beginning-of-life sense. Basically, it just comes down to whether or not one believes in science and facts, or if one believes in a fairy tale about a boogeyman living in the clouds creating the Earth with a wiggle of the nose 6,000 years ago, man walking with the dinosaurs, and having complete faith in a book written buy a bunch of men that has been altered several times over the last 2,000 years, which also just so happens to coincidentally be the last time anyone saw God walking around.

Damnit. I mean, CU is the obvious choice here. Baylor has dynamite 4x400m teams in track and that 6'7 chick in hoops, but that's about it. CU has Boulder, which is bea-u-ti-ful in the fall.

Thinking all of creation came from nothing but a big bang then some acid rain which eventually produced humans & and things that scientists still can't figure out, is just as absurd as you claim believing in a higher being that created all this is. Scientists still don't know what causes the cell to create the eye, or the nose or how each cell even differentiates between the two. But they do. And perfectly.

And no, evolution has not been proven. Its just been lied about just like everything else nowadays till everyone starts believing it.

Don't worry, you'll find out the truth soon enough.

[shear_j]

double steal for a run...i'll take it

edit: ma bad...that was supposed to go on the baseball thread

[greenyellow]

One more, then back to football. I promise.

Evolution has been proven, actually.

Alright, back to football.

One more.

Evolution has been proven to a certain extent but it's not a law by any means.

OK, back to football.

Evolution itself has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, I was just getting cute with my words. I knew he meant evolution in a beginning-of-life sense. Basically, it just comes down to whether or not one believes in science and facts, or if one believes in a fairy tale about a boogeyman living in the clouds creating the Earth with a wiggle of the nose 6,000 years ago, man walking with the dinosaurs, and having complete faith in a book written buy a bunch of men that has been altered several times over the last 2,000 years, which also just so happens to coincidentally be the last time anyone saw God walking around.

Damnit. I mean, CU is the obvious choice here. Baylor has dynamite 4x400m teams in track and that 6'7 chick in hoops, but that's about it. CU has Boulder, which is bea-u-ti-ful in the fall.

Thinking all of creation came from nothing but a big bang then some acid rain which eventually produced humans & and things that scientists still can't figure out, is just as absurd as you claim believing in a higher being that created all this is. Scientists still don't know what causes the cell to create the eye, or the nose or how each cell even differentiates between the two. But they do. And perfectly.

And no, evolution has not been proven. Its just been lied about just like everything else nowadays till everyone starts believing it.

Don't worry, you'll find out the truth soon enough.

Evolution can explain a lot of things but it doesn't yet explain how life was created. That's why it still considered a theory until someone can prove how life started.

[oregontrack]

One more, then back to football. I promise.

Evolution has been proven, actually.

Alright, back to football.

One more.

Evolution has been proven to a certain extent but it's not a law by any means.

OK, back to football.

Evolution itself has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, I was just getting cute with my words. I knew he meant evolution in a beginning-of-life sense. Basically, it just comes down to whether or not one believes in science and facts, or if one believes in a fairy tale about a boogeyman living in the clouds creating the Earth with a wiggle of the nose 6,000 years ago, man walking with the dinosaurs, and having complete faith in a book written buy a bunch of men that has been altered several times over the last 2,000 years, which also just so happens to coincidentally be the last time anyone saw God walking around.

Damnit. I mean, CU is the obvious choice here. Baylor has dynamite 4x400m teams in track and that 6'7 chick in hoops, but that's about it. CU has Boulder, which is bea-u-ti-ful in the fall.

Thinking all of creation came from nothing but a big bang then some acid rain which eventually produced humans & and things that scientists still can't figure out, is just as absurd as you claim believing in a higher being that created all this is. Scientists still don't know what causes the cell to create the eye, or the nose or how each cell even differentiates between the two. But they do. And perfectly.

And no, evolution has not been proven. Its just been lied about just like everything else nowadays till everyone starts believing it.

Don't worry, you'll find out the truth soon enough.

I chuckled at the acid rain part.

[oregontrack]

One more, then back to football. I promise.

Evolution has been proven, actually.

Alright, back to football.

One more.

Evolution has been proven to a certain extent but it's not a law by any means.

OK, back to football.

Evolution itself has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, I was just getting cute with my words. I knew he meant evolution in a beginning-of-life sense. Basically, it just comes down to whether or not one believes in science and facts, or if one believes in a fairy tale about a boogeyman living in the clouds creating the Earth with a wiggle of the nose 6,000 years ago, man walking with the dinosaurs, and having complete faith in a book written buy a bunch of men that has been altered several times over the last 2,000 years, which also just so happens to coincidentally be the last time anyone saw God walking around.

Damnit. I mean, CU is the obvious choice here. Baylor has dynamite 4x400m teams in track and that 6'7 chick in hoops, but that's about it. CU has Boulder, which is bea-u-ti-ful in the fall.

Thinking all of creation came from nothing but a big bang then some acid rain which eventually produced humans & and things that scientists still can't figure out, is just as absurd as you claim believing in a higher being that created all this is. Scientists still don't know what causes the cell to create the eye, or the nose or how each cell even differentiates between the two. But they do. And perfectly.

And no, evolution has not been proven. Its just been lied about just like everything else nowadays till everyone starts believing it.

Don't worry, you'll find out the truth soon enough.

Evolution can explain a lot of things but it doesn't yet explain how life was created. That's why it still considered a theory until someone can prove how life started.

We're talking about two different things.

[greenyellow]

We are kind of combining some topics but they are very complimentary to one another. I personally believe in evolution, but only up the creation of life. What actually started the first living organisms on Earth can't easily be explained by purely evolution, so that's where people can question it. What I don't buy in creationism is that some believe we aren't descended from any other animal and we are only like 6000 years old. I totally buy into our complete evolutionary track.

[Legions]

Evolution and the creation of life are 2 very different things scientifically that tend to get clumped together because they tend to complement each other (like geology and evolution). Evolution is the gradual change in an environment over time and has been proven (well as close to proving as you can in science, like gravity). To say that evolution is a lie and "just a theory" is ridiculous, it is just as supported as gravity (which is a theory) and of a 4.5 billion year old earth.

The origin of life is different, and much harder to get any solid facts about. But much smarter people than me are working on that. Same deal with the Big Bang. Both of those concepts still have some issues to work out and they are very different than evolution.

[Boom]

So. Baylor.

Or Colorado?

that's up to Texas to decide.....

[greenyellow]

So. Baylor.

Or Colorado?

I would want Colorado over Baylor, but would take Baylor if it means Texas is for sure coming.

[duck55]

I'm just curious if some of you think we shouldn't recruit kids out of "religious" High Schools?
Seems like a silly argument at this point since sides are already drawn and many of you refuse to budge.
How about sticking to Football. Maybe the Mods could create a "Religion and Politics" Forum.

[greenyellow]

I'm just curious if some of you think we shouldn't recruit kids out of "religious" High Schools?
Seems like a silly argument at this point since sides are already drawn and many of you refuse to budge.
How about sticking to Football. Maybe the Mods could create a "Religion and Politics" Forum.

I think we got it out our systems and are now back on topic about choosing possibly between Colorado or Baylor.