It is relevant. The schools with a realistic shot at getting a B1G offer aren't going to sign an agreement with the Pac-12 that reduces their chances of later receiving a B1G offer. The money is doubled in the B1G.
I guess we'll see how this settles out. We should know soon.
The best financial path forward right now is probably a Pac-12 agreement like the one that's believed to be coming. Perhaps that changes in 5 years if B1G membership becomes a viable option. Or maybe the landscape shifts in ways we haven't predicted and joining the B1G isn't necessary. Maybe the Pac-12, Big-12 and ACC merge and form the third megaconference. Who knows? Or maybe UCLA gets tired of being the B1G's whipping boy (which we know is going to happen) and comes back to the Pac-12, adding LA back into a media market which would then also include San Diego and Dallas. So many unknowns.
Also, I think everyone can agree that if you remove $$$ from the equation, then joining the B1G would be a giant **** sandwich and nothing that anyone should actually be excited about. So, rather than stress about the media agreement, let's just enjoy our reality for a few more years and appreciate what we have. Remove USC from the Pac and Oregon is currently recruiting head-and-shoulders above everyone else and we'll have an automatic qualifier to the playoff. We also have a top-shelf NIL operation that's worth a whole lot more right now than big coaching salaries. The next several years could be really special.
Duck07 wrote:If I was a small fish in the B1G I'd sure be worried that in the future the big fish don't have the Network come to them and say we aren't paying the minnows the same as the sharks, so we're going to get rid of them to simply add other big fish and keep the pool the same size.
There are enough smart people in Eugene and Seattle to read the long term paths to see that operating from the best financial path forward, regardless of conference affiliation, is the only option.
I'm not real hopeful about the future of the Pac at this point, which ultimately is a bummer and a failure of leadership.
100% this, sure it might be a tough few years in the lowly PAC with how badly the west coast elitist screwed up PAC sports, but as the B1G tries to grow and even possibly develop a super division with the SEC, if anyone thinks they’ll take Northwestern over Oregon they’re crazy. Everything will be ok for Oregon in the long term, Oregon is valuable enough that eventually they’ll be included with the big boys. I really don’t even care that much about the PAC media deal, I hope Kliavkoff has it in him to be bold and creative enough to take some risks, but I doubt he will so I’m just hoping the ducks can dominate the PAC for a few years, bring in plenty of tv viewership before they join the B1G within the next three years.
100% this, sure it might be a tough few years in the lowly PAC with how badly the west coast elitist screwed up PAC sports, but as the B1G tries to grow and even possibly develop a super division with the SEC, if anyone thinks they’ll take Northwestern over Oregon they’re crazy. Everything will be ok for Oregon in the long term, Oregon is valuable enough that eventually they’ll be included with the big boys. I really don’t even care that much about the PAC media deal, I hope Kliavkoff has it in him to be bold and creative enough to take some risks, but I doubt he will so I’m just hoping the ducks can dominate the PAC for a few years, bring in plenty of tv viewership before they join the B1G within the next three years.
What’s the point of the article? Slow news day or what? Source: pac 12 still has no one interested, but OSU AD, Canzona and WSU/OSU fans all holding out hope for huge deal .
What’s the point of the article? Slow news day or what? Source: pac 12 still has no one interested, but OSU AD, Canzona and WSU/OSU fans all holding out hope for huge deal .
Sarcasm aside, that’s not remotely what the article says. You can certainly choose to believe that the source is lying, or just wrong, but this is being reported by ESPN and the Athletic. Probably well sourced.
Actually that tweet would imply that SDSU could join as soon as USC/UCLA leave. They aren't joining to create a Pac 13 this year so if it happens after this 23-24 season, that whole 34M buyout to the MWC is removed next July 1st.
Duck07 wrote:Actually that tweet would imply that SDSU could join as soon as USC/UCLA leave. They aren't joining to create a Pac 13 this year so if it happens after this 23-24 season, that whole 34M buyout to the MWC is removed next July 1st.
If the Pac-12 had gotten a deal done earlier, SDSU would have only had to pay $17 million and joined the conference in the 24-25 season. I don't see SDSU leaving the MWC early if they're now having to pay $34M to leave so they're probably at least stuck in the conference through the end of the MWC's deal in 2025-26.
Hopefully the saga ends and we finally know Oregon's destiny in the near future, hopefully their decision is the right one and we can win a natty regardless
"The deal will not be announced at Pac-12 football media day on Friday in Las Vegas, the source told ESPN. It is likely to include a mix of streaming and linear options and is expected to be on-par with the ACC and Big 12, the source said."
"Our 10 schools have been ridiculously patient," the source said, adding that the league's patience to make a deal has led to more bidders coming to the table. "That patience is about to pay off."
I'm going to be grading on a curve here because I believe that if the Big 10 and Southeastern Conference negotiated their deals today, they'd take a healthy haircut against what they received just a short while ago. Especially the Southeastern Conference, as ESPN's financial woes have been very public. They're both big brands/power conferences, and they timed the market perfectly. That understanding doesn't help us in the arms race, though.
StevensTechU wrote:I'm going to be grading on a curve here because I believe that if the Big 10 and Southeastern Conference negotiated their deals today, they'd take a healthy haircut against what they received just a short while ago. Especially the Southeastern Conference, as ESPN's financial woes have been very public. They're both big brands/power conferences, and they timed the market perfectly. That understanding doesn't help us in the arms race, though.
