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Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:47 pm
by wlduck
OregonFan4Life wrote:These coaching salaries are getting beyond unreasonable and will be the #1 reason college football will lose fans, more so than the transfer portal.
It’s definitely moving into uncharted territory. I tend to think that people overreact to these things, but I’m not so sure this time. And the coaching moves kind of go hand and hand with the portal. Now a coach can take players with him to some extent.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:32 pm
by alxtw
StevensTechU wrote:Do* folks on this board (not ADs) think Cristobal is a $9M/yr head coach?
I'd much rather have his contract updated with even larger performance bonuses and increases in annual salary when goals are met, to the degree where his total compensation would match that of a top earning coach (Lincoln, Tucker, Saban) when they win a title, make it into the CFP, or win a NY6 game. However, his currently salary does seem a little low.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:46 pm
by Everythingsducky
wlduck wrote:StevensTechU wrote:Does folks on this board (not ADs) think Cristobal is a $9M/yr head coach?
And the current market highly values what he is best at- recruiting.
The two coaches that just got theses huge contracts, have taken their respective teams to the CFP multiple times. As good of a recruiter as MC is, his resume hasn’t reached those heights yet. Not a $9M/year coach in my mind, not yet.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:50 pm
by StevensTechU
Everythingsducky wrote:wlduck wrote:StevensTechU wrote:Does folks on this board (not ADs) think Cristobal is a $9M/yr head coach?
And the current market highly values what he is best at- recruiting.
The two coaches that just got theses huge contracts, have taken their respective teams to the CFP multiple times. As good of a recruiter as MC is, his resume hasn’t reached those heights yet. Not a $9M/year coach in my mind, not yet.
Mel Tucker
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:37 pm
by StevensTechU
Sounding like Donte Williams isn't going to stay at USC and his most likely landing spot is uw. I don't love that.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:53 am
by dthomas=ddixon
StevensTechU wrote:Sounding like Donte Williams isn't going to stay at USC and his most likely landing spot is uw. I don't love that.
That’s unfortunate. He seems ambitious enough that he’ll move on from there as soon as possible though.
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Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:14 pm
by Everythingsducky
StevensTechU wrote:Everythingsducky wrote:wlduck wrote:StevensTechU wrote:Does folks on this board (not ADs) think Cristobal is a $9M/yr head coach?
And the current market highly values what he is best at- recruiting.
The two coaches that just got theses huge contracts, have taken their respective teams to the CFP multiple times. As good of a recruiter as MC is, his resume hasn’t reached those heights yet. Not a $9M/year coach in my mind, not yet.
Mel Tucker
Good call. Was thinking of Riley/Kelly. Tuckers deal seems crazy high.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:11 pm
by greenyellow
Virginia will now be open after their bowl game.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:06 pm
by StevensTechU
The Bronco news is a SHOCKER. Maybe I don't follow things closely enough, but I didn't see that one coming.
Hey Brennan Armstrong, if you want to use your last year to play for the Ducks, we'll gladly have you.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:11 pm
by alxtw
StevensTechU wrote:Sounding like Donte Williams isn't going to stay at USC and his most likely landing spot is uw. I don't love that.
That's a good move by UW. Donte isn't a proven DC, but no one expects UW to be champions right away. (Except their own delusional fans) So they will have time for what Donte does best, recruiting. If he doesn't pan out in 2-3 years, at least they have a stable of very good recruits and can bring in another DC. The risk-reward ratio is favorable with a Donte hire.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:36 pm
by buckmarkduck
alxtw wrote:StevensTechU wrote:Sounding like Donte Williams isn't going to stay at USC and his most likely landing spot is uw. I don't love that.
That's a good move by UW. Donte isn't a proven DC, but no one expects UW to be champions right away. (Except their own delusional fans) So they will have time for what Donte does best, recruiting. If he doesn't pan out in 2-3 years, at least they have a stable of very good recruits and can bring in another DC. The risk-reward ratio is favorable with a Donte hire.
If they are making him the DC, it’s a terrible move. Remover when Bama tried to give the DC to Tosh? It will be far worse than that.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:21 pm
by StevensTechU
First, I would trade Yates for Williams in a heartbeat. It's a dog eat dog business, if it went down that way. Second, if uw did get Williams by making him DC, it may not make them an elite defense, but it would also hurt UofO and SC by taking talent away that we'd otherwise have a great shot at. Wasted talent is still talent that doesn't end up elsewhere.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:36 pm
by OregonFan4Life
Why does everybody seem so sure that Williams will be a bad DC?
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:14 pm
by StevensTechU
OregonFan4Life wrote:Why does everybody seem so sure that Williams will be a bad DC?
USCs defense has been absolute garbage the last two seasons.
Re: Coaching Carousel
Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:22 pm
by wlduck
wlduck wrote:The more I think about what’s happening, the more likely I think it is that Cristobal bails. I think it’s 50/50 he lasts through this cycle, and 90/10 he’s gone after next year if not.
These crazy offers are going to the perceived best recruiters, the ones capable of swimming in the SEC waters. It would not surprise me at all if Oklahoma takes a big swing at MC.
The fact that Oklahoma has not announced anything leads me to speculate that they have a deal with Mario. Will announce it after tomorrow night’s game. If it was going to be Venables they would have it done already- he’s not in a conference championship game. I’m just spitballing but the silence seems telling to me.