Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

[pezsez1]

Not seen any credible reports of AZ leaving. Lots of wild rumors last week that the conference was going to implode by Friday (including Oregon and UW going to the B12) and clearly none of that happened. Kind of like how the conf was 2 weeks away from collapse for the past year or however long it has been.

Granted, things can change (like CO finally deciding to leave) but take all of this twitter noise with massive piles of salt.

[squintsdd]

Assuming Oregon leaving is off the table, I would like to see the Pac whatever move to 14 teams with the additions of SDSU, UNLV, SMU, Fresno State, and CSU. It's not the most competitive lineup, but it captures a good size media market, and is competitive enough to keep the SoS from completely plummeting. It would be comparable to the bottom of the B1G as far as competitiveness goes anyway.

If they want to expand further east, maybe drop FSU for Memphis.

[buckmarkduck]

Not seen any credible reports of AZ leaving. Lots of wild rumors last week that the conference was going to implode by Friday (including Oregon and UW going to the B12) and clearly none of that happened. Kind of like how the conf was 2 weeks away from collapse for the past year or however long it has been.

Granted, things can change (like CO finally deciding to leave) but take all of this twitter noise with massive piles of salt.

Bullshit. Not one person said Friday we would be gone or uw.

[Duck07]

I probably know the answer to this question already but……. I was listening to sports radio a few days ago and they were talking about Colorado jumping to the Big12. A lawyer, he proclaimed to be a lawyer, called in and said he felt there was grounds for the PAC 12 to file an antitrust lawsuit with these teams leaving. The caller did acknowledge he was not an antitrust attorney. Does anyone here with more education than myself feel this may be an option? The first thing that came to my mind was teams have been jumping between conferences for many years, why a antitrust now?

I think there is a far more valid argument to make that such unequal tv distributions among teams that are all playing on the same "level" is not what the Professional Leagues do so why should the NCAA/Individual Colleges not be subject to them same rules? In other words, every school at X-level is paid an equal amount from the various broadcast deals while retaining the ability to hold onto your local revenue sources.

The obvious retort would be that it's not an Anti-Trust violations if each of these leagues is able to sign their own broadcast rights. Ultimately it seems the plaintiff would have to be the NCAA to make this claim, not the remaining members of the PAC that we're getting destroyed because of NBC.

[SuperDuck]

Assuming Oregon leaving is off the table, I would like to see the Pac whatever move to 14 teams with the additions of SDSU, UNLV, SMU, Fresno State, and CSU. It's not the most competitive lineup, but it captures a good size media market, and is competitive enough to keep the SoS from completely plummeting. It would be comparable to the bottom of the B1G as far as competitiveness goes anyway.

If they want to expand further east, maybe drop FSU for Memphis.

Another team I haven't heard mentioned is Florida Atlantic. Kiffin took them to a 10 win season, and that would open the Florida recruiting even more.

I still don't know why UTEP and UTSA haven't been mentioned as possible additions? UTSA has played decent football recently and the El Paso and San Antonio markets are big.

[StevensTechU]

I probably know the answer to this question already but……. I was listening to sports radio a few days ago and they were talking about Colorado jumping to the Big12. A lawyer, he proclaimed to be a lawyer, called in and said he felt there was grounds for the PAC 12 to file an antitrust lawsuit with these teams leaving. The caller did acknowledge he was not an antitrust attorney. Does anyone here with more education than myself feel this may be an option? The first thing that came to my mind was teams have been jumping between conferences for many years, why a antitrust now?

I used to do work on the financial side of antitrust cases (quantifying damages in those cases), but what I'm about to say isn't that. It's simply that you'd have to show why, with all the movement, Colorado to the Big 12 is unlike all the other recent cases that look nearly identical to most of the rest of us. Sounds like a scenario where only the lawyers win. Like your gut is telling you, I don't see a case.

[squintsdd]

Assuming Oregon leaving is off the table, I would like to see the Pac whatever move to 14 teams with the additions of SDSU, UNLV, SMU, Fresno State, and CSU. It's not the most competitive lineup, but it captures a good size media market, and is competitive enough to keep the SoS from completely plummeting. It would be comparable to the bottom of the B1G as far as competitiveness goes anyway.

If they want to expand further east, maybe drop FSU for Memphis.

Another team I haven't heard mentioned is Florida Atlantic. Kiffin took them to a 10 win season, and that would open the Florida recruiting even more.

I still don't know why UTEP and UTSA haven't been mentioned as possible additions? UTSA has played decent football recently and the El Paso and San Antonio markets are big.

FAU makes little sense Geographically unless more eastern schools were to be added. That tv market would be nice, but besides that, there's not much sense in it at the moment.

UTEP and UTSA makes some sense, but I'm not so sure anyone really wants to watch them outside of their own fan base.

[StevensTechU]

Latest rumor is from Barstool where they say the Big 10 will add Oregon, washington, Florida State and Clemson "this week."

I'd love it, but I'm sure it's no more than rumor #2,506.

[woundedknees]

That would (IMO) require either a serious infusion of new, or previously undisclosed, cash, or four idiot school administrations settling for peanuts on the dollar...

[Phalanx]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 58ac&ei=11

[Alan]

Latest rumor is from Barstool where they say the Big 10 will add Oregon, washington, Florida State and Clemson "this week."

I'd love it, but I'm sure it's no more than rumor #2,506.

It would be nice, at least a week is not long to wait to see. It does kind of line up with Colorado and locking in Lanning, Utah…… of course it all could be circumstantial

[SuperDuck]

What I think will happen in the next couple years is USC and UCLA will return to the Pac-12 and Oklahoma/Texas to the Big-12.

The universe will see the chaos that's happening because of these moves and perform an auto correction.

[OregonFan4Life]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ ... 58ac&ei=11

Probably the most realistic scenario we’ve seen in a while for teams that would join the B1G, but still highly doubt it and won’t believe anything until it actually happens.

[DuckMastaFunk]

Latest rumor is from Barstool where they say the Big 10 will add Oregon, washington, Florida State and Clemson "this week."

I'd love it, but I'm sure it's no more than rumor #2,506.

I'm not sure I buy that rumor because it would take 12-15 years for ACC schools to earn enough to payoff the $500 million buyout, assuming they find a 0% interest loan.

https://247sports.com/article/conferenc ... 189838392/

[pezsez1]

Do all the Arizona rumors link back to just one source or am I missing something? Same with that "four schools to B1G" rumor, all I can find to substantiate that is something on Barstool Sports. The Athlon article just cites that report without any of its own work.