karlhungis wrote:How do you even know what actually went down? There are so many factors involved that, unless you are directly involved, you couldn't possibly know what the real story is. Forgive me if I side with the coaches in cases like this.
As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
Vista (Calif.) Murietta Vista defensive end Jeremy Castro decided to make a verbal commitment to Washington today. The 6-foot-3, 245 pound prospect becomes commitment No. 16 for Steve Sarkisian and his staff at Washington.
Before making his verbal pledge Castro was leaning towards UCLA and Oregon he said, however after weeks of un-returned calls by the Ducks, Castro decided to commit.
"I finally just decided it was the place for me," Castro said of his Washington verbal commitment. "Oregon has not been contacting me or returning my calls and Washington has been there the whole time. I like the coaches and it's a nice quiet place to play football. I don't like it too hot so I'll just have to get used to the rain."
Despite his verbal pledge, Castro said he plans to take all five official visits. He hopes to visit Oregon, Washington, ASU and UCLA. He did not have a fifth visit decided but mentioned LSU as a possible destination.
While Oregon may not have been actively recruiting Castro recently, he admitted if the Ducks resume contact he would give them full interest.
"If Oregon comes back around, I'll definitely consider them," he said. "I want to take my visits and make sure Washington is the right place for me."
Castro has a 247Rating of 84, making him a three-star recruit.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
Well those comments kinda make me feel bad for the kid. If a kid is as talented as Castro and wants to come to Oregon that badly, it just sucks to ignore him.
Again I know the coaches know what they're doing, but situations like this just suck.
uostudent wrote:As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
Vista (Calif.) Murietta Vista defensive end Jeremy Castro decided to make a verbal commitment to Washington today. The 6-foot-3, 245 pound prospect becomes commitment No. 16 for Steve Sarkisian and his staff at Washington.
Before making his verbal pledge Castro was leaning towards UCLA and Oregon he said, however after weeks of un-returned calls by the Ducks, Castro decided to commit.
"I finally just decided it was the place for me," Castro said of his Washington verbal commitment. "Oregon has not been contacting me or returning my calls and Washington has been there the whole time. I like the coaches and it's a nice quiet place to play football. I don't like it too hot so I'll just have to get used to the rain."
Despite his verbal pledge, Castro said he plans to take all five official visits. He hopes to visit Oregon, Washington, ASU and UCLA. He did not have a fifth visit decided but mentioned LSU as a possible destination.
While Oregon may not have been actively recruiting Castro recently, he admitted if the Ducks resume contact he would give them full interest.
"If Oregon comes back around, I'll definitely consider them," he said. "I want to take my visits and make sure Washington is the right place for me."
Castro has a 247Rating of 84, making him a three-star recruit.
We turned him away and he's still interested..... Looks like the coaches have played it perfectly to me
uostudent wrote:As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
Vista (Calif.) Murietta Vista defensive end Jeremy Castro decided to make a verbal commitment to Washington today. The 6-foot-3, 245 pound prospect becomes commitment No. 16 for Steve Sarkisian and his staff at Washington.
Before making his verbal pledge Castro was leaning towards UCLA and Oregon he said, however after weeks of un-returned calls by the Ducks, Castro decided to commit.
"I finally just decided it was the place for me," Castro said of his Washington verbal commitment. "Oregon has not been contacting me or returning my calls and Washington has been there the whole time. I like the coaches and it's a nice quiet place to play football. I don't like it too hot so I'll just have to get used to the rain."
Despite his verbal pledge, Castro said he plans to take all five official visits. He hopes to visit Oregon, Washington, ASU and UCLA. He did not have a fifth visit decided but mentioned LSU as a possible destination.
While Oregon may not have been actively recruiting Castro recently, he admitted if the Ducks resume contact he would give them full interest.
"If Oregon comes back around, I'll definitely consider them," he said. "I want to take my visits and make sure Washington is the right place for me."
Castro has a 247Rating of 84, making him a three-star recruit.
We turned him away and he's still interested..... Looks like the coaches have played it perfectly to me
Just going to say that....
Stewart Mandel-"From a purely aesthetic standpoint, I much prefer to watch a good spread-rushing offense over a traditional Power-I offense, and Oregon's has been the most fun by far for the past several years. It's fast, its precise, and when Chip Kelly has the right quarterback (Dixon, Masoli) at the helm, the possibility of someone ripping off a 60-yard run exists on nearly every play."
There are 2 type of offers. One is open until the allocated slots for your position are filled. The other is unconditional up until signing day and is reserved for 5 stars (the coaching staffs ratings not Scouts or Rivals).
If you don't have an assurance that your offer is unconditioned you are in a race with others offered at your position. He is now in limbo with regard to his Oregon offer. If one of the two existing commits chooses to decommit he would probably have a spot. Also if at the end of recruiting none of the dream targets are secured he might get a slew of calls, apologies and begging from the Oregon coaches if they really want 3 instead of 2 DEs.
Texas signs around 15 to players every year on their Junior day because most of those players are told their offer is not guaranteed past that day.
Again, all you are getting is one side of the story, and that side is from someone who feels like they have been snubbed. None of us were there. None of us know what really happened.
OregonFan4life -
My source just said Chip is officially back!
It will be announced at Autzen press conference tomorrow afternoon!
karlhungis wrote:Again, all you are getting is one side of the story, and that side is from someone who feels like they have been snubbed. None of us were there. None of us know what really happened.
What he said.
Also, who's to say that the coaches REALLY value him as much as the recruiting services do?
GrandpaDuck wrote:Sounds like a case of you snooze you lose.
There are 2 type of offers. One is open until the allocated slots for your position are filled. The other is unconditional up until signing day and is reserved for 5 stars (the coaching staffs ratings not Scouts or Rivals).
If you don't have an assurance that your offer is unconditioned you are in a race with others offered at your position. He is now in limbo with regard to his Oregon offer. If one of the two existing commits chooses to decommit he would probably have a spot. Also if at the end of recruiting none of the dream targets are secured he might get a slew of calls, apologies and begging from the Oregon coaches if they really want 3 instead of 2 DEs.
Texas signs around 15 to players every year on their Junior day because most of those players are told their offer is not guaranteed past that day.
Yeah, the comments about the staff are very amusing! Even the highly touted O-linemen know that it is a first come first served scenario and in their case that only 3 are being filled. Several even stated as much in interviews.
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karlhungis wrote:How do you even know what actually went down? There are so many factors involved that, unless you are directly involved, you couldn't possibly know what the real story is. Forgive me if I side with the coaches in cases like this.
As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
oh god...where to even start? played it poorly? according to whom? you? ok smart guy...TELL EVERYONE THE FOLLOWING...and remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC:
where was Castro on a list of DE's that we are after?
if you can answer that ONE EASY QUESTION...then i'll tip my cap to you.
remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC. YOU said the coaches played this poorly. Gonna need an answer and stat.
karlhungis wrote:How do you even know what actually went down? There are so many factors involved that, unless you are directly involved, you couldn't possibly know what the real story is. Forgive me if I side with the coaches in cases like this.
As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
oh god...where to even start? played it poorly? according to whom? you? ok smart guy...TELL EVERYONE THE FOLLOWING...and remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC:
where was Castro on a list of DE's that we are after?
if you can answer that ONE EASY QUESTION...then i'll tip my cap to you.
remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC. YOU said the coaches played this poorly. Gonna need an answer and stat.
Try reading the entire thread and put statements in context. Earlier uostudent wrote "This isn't even about missing out on Castro. We could end up with Hamilton, Buckner, and Kaumatule - and I still wouldn't like the way the coaches handled this situation." The issue isn't where Castro is on the coaches list, it is about the courtesy of returning a recruits phone calls.
karlhungis wrote:How do you even know what actually went down? There are so many factors involved that, unless you are directly involved, you couldn't possibly know what the real story is. Forgive me if I side with the coaches in cases like this.
As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
oh god...where to even start? played it poorly? according to whom? you? ok smart guy...TELL EVERYONE THE FOLLOWING...and remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC:
where was Castro on a list of DE's that we are after?
if you can answer that ONE EASY QUESTION...then i'll tip my cap to you.
remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC. YOU said the coaches played this poorly. Gonna need an answer and stat.
Try reading the entire thread and put statements in context. Earlier uostudent wrote "This isn't even about missing out on Castro. We could end up with Hamilton, Buckner, and Kaumatule - and I still wouldn't like the way the coaches handled this situation." The issue isn't where Castro is on the coaches list, it is about the courtesy of returning a recruits phone calls.
Hmm, why don't you quantify "this situation". Are you privy to what was said during any of the phone calls? I'd imagine not. Where is the context that we are supposed to use to pass judgement on the staff for being crappy to the recruit? Right... there is none!
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karlhungis wrote:How do you even know what actually went down? There are so many factors involved that, unless you are directly involved, you couldn't possibly know what the real story is. Forgive me if I side with the coaches in cases like this.
As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
oh god...where to even start? played it poorly? according to whom? you? ok smart guy...TELL EVERYONE THE FOLLOWING...and remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC:
where was Castro on a list of DE's that we are after?
if you can answer that ONE EASY QUESTION...then i'll tip my cap to you.
remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC. YOU said the coaches played this poorly. Gonna need an answer and stat.
Try reading the entire thread and put statements in context. Earlier uostudent wrote "This isn't even about missing out on Castro. We could end up with Hamilton, Buckner, and Kaumatule - and I still wouldn't like the way the coaches handled this situation." The issue isn't where Castro is on the coaches list, it is about the courtesy of returning a recruits phone calls.
Hmm, why don't you quantify "this situation". Are you privy to what was said during any of the phone calls? I'd imagine not. Where is the context that we are supposed to use to pass judgement on the staff for being crappy to the recruit? Right... there is none!
What part of "the courtesy of returning a recruits phone calls" indicates I know what the conversation was? Right...there is none!
karlhungis wrote:How do you even know what actually went down? There are so many factors involved that, unless you are directly involved, you couldn't possibly know what the real story is. Forgive me if I side with the coaches in cases like this.
As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
oh god...where to even start? played it poorly? according to whom? you? ok smart guy...TELL EVERYONE THE FOLLOWING...and remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC:
where was Castro on a list of DE's that we are after?
if you can answer that ONE EASY QUESTION...then i'll tip my cap to you.
remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC. YOU said the coaches played this poorly. Gonna need an answer and stat.
Try reading the entire thread and put statements in context. Earlier uostudent wrote "This isn't even about missing out on Castro. We could end up with Hamilton, Buckner, and Kaumatule - and I still wouldn't like the way the coaches handled this situation." The issue isn't where Castro is on the coaches list, it is about the courtesy of returning a recruits phone calls.
Hmm, why don't you quantify "this situation". Are you privy to what was said during any of the phone calls? I'd imagine not. Where is the context that we are supposed to use to pass judgement on the staff for being crappy to the recruit? Right... there is none!
What part of "the courtesy of returning a recruits phone calls" indicates I know what the conversation was? Right...there is none!
Yet you still infer that they had some sort of obligation to return all the calls without knowing the status of the relationship at the time.
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karlhungis wrote:How do you even know what actually went down? There are so many factors involved that, unless you are directly involved, you couldn't possibly know what the real story is. Forgive me if I side with the coaches in cases like this.
As I suspected, the coaches played this one very poorly. Like BJ Kelley, he's still interested in Oregon, even though he's been treated like crap by coaching staff.
oh god...where to even start? played it poorly? according to whom? you? ok smart guy...TELL EVERYONE THE FOLLOWING...and remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC:
where was Castro on a list of DE's that we are after?
if you can answer that ONE EASY QUESTION...then i'll tip my cap to you.
remember, i'm using YOUR LOGIC. YOU said the coaches played this poorly. Gonna need an answer and stat.
Try reading the entire thread and put statements in context. Earlier uostudent wrote "This isn't even about missing out on Castro. We could end up with Hamilton, Buckner, and Kaumatule - and I still wouldn't like the way the coaches handled this situation." The issue isn't where Castro is on the coaches list, it is about the courtesy of returning a recruits phone calls.
Max, I appreciate the rational post, but you need to realize who are you dealing with. Some people lack reading comprehension skills and are unable to make valid arguments. Your time is the most valuable asset that you possess. There's no reason to waste it bickering with some bitter curmudgeon.
“If everybody in this room just want to be real with themselves, this game could have went either way,” he said. “We turned the ball over a lot. We beat ourself. Just be real with yourself right now. We beat ourself.”
-Jameis Winston after Oregon's decisive 59-20 victory over Florida State in the Rose Bowl
