bruce Barron gone too

[dthomas=ddixon]

Barron and Brown were very active on social networking sites talking up the Ducks, prior to the start of this season... Brown even seemed to be instrumental in the recruitment of Artis.

Leaving after just 2 games seems like a really odd way of backing up JB's verbal statement that he wanted to bring a championship to Oregon.

He's a quiter. Plain & simple. Things were great until he realized he had to actually work for playing time & put in full effort. Now he can go to SDSU where Fisher & his staff will cow tow to him & all the other misfits on the team.

[briarduck]

Brutal news, this kills our depth for the future and I would assume he left because Brown had....that said good riddance.

[dthomas=ddixon]

I can't wait till a few few years from now when BB & JB are playing at whatever schools they transfer to & talk about all the "adversity" they had to face to get to where they are. Ok I'm done now. But seriously, I hope these 2 never play a meaningful minute of basketball ever again. Go get real jobs like the rest of us you spoiled punks.

[Boom]

Barron is not a big loss.

I disagree

Who's going to play SG next year?

Barron had decent size.. and very good athleticism to play and defend the position.

Your question implies that Barron was the answer at SG next year, and he wasn't. He was never a good fit for Altman's system and he would have done nothing but constantly frustrate Altman and Oregon fans with his out of control play and turnovers, not to mention he isn't a good shooter. It was a poor recruiting evaluation.

Are you really trying to tell me Altman can't recruit kids for his own system?

And are you really going to base your assessment of a freshmen on a few minutes in a couple of games? Of course he's going to struggle. This is why we pay 2+ million for a basketball coach... to coach them up.

The important thing was that Barron had the ability to play at this level and he appeared to at least play with maximum effort when he was on the court. (unlike Jabari Brown)

The Ducks will simply play a combination of players at the guard positions next season, just like they are going to do the remainder of this season.

So you're saying we will play Brett Kingma, Jonathon Loyd, and who else? walk on Nicholas Lucenti? and hopefully a couple of freshman (who will most likely play out of control and turnover the ball).

I fail to see how this doesn't hurt the program. At this point, everyone of Altman's kids would be big lost...

[TheMaehlMan]

I can't wait till a few few years from now when BB & JB are playing at whatever schools they transfer to & talk about all the "adversity" they had to face to get to where they are. Ok I'm done now. But seriously, I hope these 2 never play a meaningful minute of basketball ever again. Go get real jobs like the rest of us you spoiled punks.

Yeah, no kidding. They were given scholarships at a school that they chose, and they just quit like that? Ridiculous..

To be honest, I would be surprised if either one of them finds success at their next destination. If a player decides after a few games to take his ball and go home, then he will probably fail regardless of where he is at. I can't imagine how frustrating it is to coach kids like Barron/Brown, it would drive me nuts..

[greenyellow]

The next couple years will be tough to watch now since there are basically now 4 schollies left with so few recruits possibly left. Oregon has absolutely no guards left except Loyd and Kingma for next season. Plus, there looks like there will only be 1 SO on the team so JC fillers are going to commonplace for the next couple recruiting classes. The 2012 class is basically done with so (i.e. not many top-rated HS players left) I don't expect much help in terms of scholarship balance.

[OreDucks01284]

it is due to lack of PT for both of them, it seem that they don't want to work for it and earn it PT. What I don't get is that why leave team? they have 4 years to play, plenty of tPT right there.

[Boom]

The next couple years will be tough to watch now since there are basically now 4 schollies left with so few recruits possibly left. Oregon has absolutely no guards left except Loyd and Kingma for next season. Plus, there looks like there will only be 1 SO on the team so JC fillers are going to commonplace for the next couple recruiting classes. The 2012 class is basically done with so (i.e. not many top-rated HS players left) I don't expect much help in terms of scholarship balance.

This a pretty big disappointment... I thought we would have had a pretty decent chance at competing for a tourney spot next year.

Now we're looking at another 3-4 years at the earliest.

[greenyellow]

The next couple years will be tough to watch now since there are basically now 4 schollies left with so few recruits possibly left. Oregon has absolutely no guards left except Loyd and Kingma for next season. Plus, there looks like there will only be 1 SO on the team so JC fillers are going to commonplace for the next couple recruiting classes. The 2012 class is basically done with so (i.e. not many top-rated HS players left) I don't expect much help in terms of scholarship balance.

This a pretty big disappointment... I thought we would have had a pretty decent chance at competing for a tourney spot next year.

Now we're looking at another 3-4 years at the earliest.

After thinking the program was on stable footing, it now looks like last year's team with almost no end in sight to stop the bleeding. It's very possible that we may see another coaching change within that time period if Altman can't get things straightened out. With how weak the conference is, this team could possibly compete for a tourney spot, but they'll definitely be leaning on the post game since guard depth and quality is almost completely shot now.

[TheMaehlMan]

I agree that this is a very bad thing, but I think it is too soon to know the forecast of what is to come in future years. It certainly sets us back though, no denying that...

[oregontrack]

well, it's nowhere near as impactful as jabari leaving, but it does suck. i liked barron's energy.

if anyone was actually expecting bruce barron to contribute at the 2 next year that speaks to just how bad our SG situation was to begin with. let's hope kingma can shoot as well as they say he can!

[greenyellow]

well, it's nowhere near as impactful as jabari leaving, but it does suck. i liked barron's energy.

if anyone was actually expecting bruce barron to contribute at the 2 next year that speaks to just how bad our SG situation was to begin with. let's hope kingma can shoot as well as they say he can!

So far, I've yet to see anything special with Kingma, but that probably has more to due with Sim playing major minutes ahead of him and being a FR. Still, the SG spot is going to be a weak spot for several years without some adequate recruiting there. No team can get by with having almost no scoring coming from the backcourt positions, which could be the case with who'll be on the roster next year so far.

[jonesn]

What a bunch of p*ssies!

[Phalanx]

I am probably missing something here, but it looks like we will have Joseph to fill in this year and then Artis coming next year along with Loyd and Kingma...a three-guard rotation isn't enough? I think if Altman could find a JC 2-guard, we would be fine. Twos and threes are traditionally the easiest positions to recruit...I guess I am not as worried as some of you. Given how bad the ducks have been for some time now, I am willing to give Altman as long as he needs to get his pipeline going with HIS guys. Given the mess he inherited, I think he has been doing a tremendous job.

[greenyellow]

I am probably missing something here, but it looks like we will have Joseph to fill in this year and then Artis coming next year along with Loyd and Kingma...a three-guard rotation isn't enough? I think if Altman could find a JC 2-guard, we would be fine. Twos and threes are traditionally the easiest positions to recruit...I guess I am not as worried as some of you. Given how bad the ducks have been for some time now, I am willing to give Altman as long as he needs to get his pipeline going with HIS guys. Given the mess he inherited, I think he has been doing a tremendous job.

This year was supposed to be when we finally could see what a fully-staffed Altman team is capable of, but now it looks like they'll have to play a completely different style to makeup for the lack of guards. As for recruiting guards, I don't think it's all that easy to recruit since getting guards that can score consistently and match-up athletically with Pac-12 players are hard to come by. I thought that the program would be settled by at least Altman's 3rd year but that is looking more like year 4-5, due to all the defections and team imbalance. I just can't see how this Altman gets enough players spaced out to avoid what happened during Kent's tenure while maintaining a good team.