Short opinion piece on players leaving

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Latest rumor, from a poster on Duck Territory, is that Altman had said they'd be conducting drug tests 6 weeks ago and that both Barron and Brown have left just about when those tests were going to be administered. Not sure how credible this rumor is but could make sense for both leaving. Another thing that hasn't been stated is that Barron and Brown are roommates so this could also be playing into both transferring out.

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Interesting... I didn't think colleges were allowed to perform random drug tests on their players. Does the football team also do this?

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Interesting... I didn't think colleges were allowed to perform random drug tests on their players. Does the football team also do this?

I think that coaches can do it, as long as the athletic department is on board with it and it's the entire team.

[woundedknees]

Doesn't sound random, if the date was announced... What, they never heard of the 'WHIZZINATOR"?

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Doesn't sound random, if the date was announced... What, they never heard of the 'WHIZZINATOR"?

This is the original post he's referring to

http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Th ... -5895222/1
I can offer up a whole different potential reason why these two players transferred. Let me preface this by first stating that I do not know for a fact that the reason I am about to provide is why they transferred. All I can say is that someone close to the situation hypothesized the following reason based upon 1 fact.

The one fact? About 6 weeks ago Coach Altman advised his team that they were going to require the players to undergo random urine analysis tests.... in 6 weeks. Apparently, the coaching staff was aware of some of the players using drugs (I suspect dope), and instead of singling anyone out they decide to advise the whole team that they were going to start testing the players in 6 weeks.

By the person "close" to the situation's calculations, the 6 week mark is nearly upon them. He hypothesizes that these young kids left before they could be tested and caught - hence tarnishing their early careers. He also said neither one was upset with minutes as the season had only just begun; and that neither were "me" type players.

Again, please understand there is no proof that this is 100 percent accurate, except for the random UA and suspicion from the coaching staff about possible drug use.

[justducky0]

Interesting... I didn't think colleges were allowed to perform random drug tests on their players. Does the football team also do this?

They can administer drug tests

[gogreen55]

The Oregon football team has had a lot of players transfer since Chip took over as well. I don't think that reflects poorly upon Chip. Transfers are just magnified in basketball due to the smaller roster size.

That's because it's common for a few players to transfer every year in football.

That's not the case in basketball.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, the reason there are more transfers in football is due to the vastly larger roster size. Transfers happen in both sports. The same myriad of reasons that cause some football players to transfer leads to some basketball players transferring. As I said before, it is simply magnified when it happens in basketball due to the smaller roster size.

If the same number of players left the basketball team as left the football team during Chip's first few years (which was far more than the norm), the basketball team would not exist. In and of itself, the fact Chip and Dana encountered more players leaving their program than normal their first couple years as head coach doesn't reflect poorly upon either of them.

[maxduck]

Doesn't sound random, if the date was announced... What, they never heard of the 'WHIZZINATOR"?

This is the original post he's referring to

http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Th ... -5895222/1
I can offer up a whole different potential reason why these two players transferred. Let me preface this by first stating that I do not know for a fact that the reason I am about to provide is why they transferred. All I can say is that someone close to the situation hypothesized the following reason based upon 1 fact.

The one fact? About 6 weeks ago Coach Altman advised his team that they were going to require the players to undergo random urine analysis tests.... in 6 weeks. Apparently, the coaching staff was aware of some of the players using drugs (I suspect dope), and instead of singling anyone out they decide to advise the whole team that they were going to start testing the players in 6 weeks.

By the person "close" to the situation's calculations, the 6 week mark is nearly upon them. He hypothesizes that these young kids left before they could be tested and caught - hence tarnishing their early careers. He also said neither one was upset with minutes as the season had only just begun; and that neither were "me" type players.

Again, please understand there is no proof that this is 100 percent accurate, except for the random UA and suspicion from the coaching staff about possible drug use.

If a player decided to transfer because of a pending drug test announced 6 weeks before wouldn't he want to quit before playing in a game and saving a year of eligibility? The timeline would have the tests announced about mid-October, the official start of practice.

[oregontrack]

yeah, that drug thing sound ridiculous.

[justducky0]

The Oregon football team has had a lot of players transfer since Chip took over as well. I don't think that reflects poorly upon Chip. Transfers are just magnified in basketball due to the smaller roster size.

That's because it's common for a few players to transfer every year in football.

That's not the case in basketball.

At the risk of pointing out the obvious, the reason there are more transfers in football is due to the vastly larger roster size. Transfers happen in both sports. The same myriad of reasons that cause some football players to transfer leads to some basketball players transferring. As I said before, it is simply magnified when it happens in basketball due to the smaller roster size.

If the same number of players left the basketball team as left the football team during Chip's first few years (which was far more than the norm), the basketball team would not exist. In and of itself, the fact Chip and Dana encountered more players leaving their program than normal their first couple years as head coach doesn't reflect poorly upon either of them.

kind of a dumb point, you would have to do a percentage of players that transfer to how many people are on the team. To be able to accurately compare the two populations You cannot just use the the total numbers in the samples to compare. Like the above posters said the reason it is magnified is because there is a smaller population size. Stats 101

[neezy3]

If you are given six weeks to pass a drug test and still can't do it we don't want you here. If you complain about minutes two games into the season when you're a freshman that hasn't proven anything yet we don't want you here. How many true freshman walk into the gym and dominate older guys with more experience and men's bodies. The fact is both of these guys are immature and diseases to the team, glad we got rid of them early rather than later don't let the door hit you on the way out imho.