Colorado State hires Ernie Kent?

[uostudent]

Sounds like someone high up didn't like him.

Or they just took eustachy because he is a better coach (although he has some questionable personal history...)

Lmao. You think any parent of a top recruit is going to let their kid play for this guy



He'll be lucky to get Nebraska castoffs.

Terrible hire for Colorado State and a major screw up PR wise. I'm going to assume that they'll also be hiring Mike Price to be their football coach.

That was 10 years ago and he hasn't had a sip of alcohol since. he had good recruits at southern miss, a school that doesn't care about basketball, and had a great season.


lets do a blind comparison

Coach A- wins-377, losses-249
Coach B- wins-325, losses-254

Coach A-wins in last 3 years 67
Coach B- wins in last 3 years 16

Coach A- ncaa appearances 4
Coach B- ncaa appearances 6

Coach A- Conference coach of the year 4
Coach B- conference coach of the year 1

Coach A- national coach of the year 1
Coach B- national coach of the year 0

Coach A- Conference regular season championships 6
Coach B- conference regular season championships 2

Coach A- conference tournament championships 2
Coach B- conference tournament championships 3

The Pac 10 used to be a very good conference. When Ernie Kent's teams were winning, UCLA and Arizona were doing extremely well. Washington State was a very solid program under Bennett. UW has always been competitive.

Eustachy had one good year at Iowa State when they had Jamaal Tinsley and Marcus Fizer. Excellent recruiter at Southern Miss? He got one 3 star commit in the past 6 years. Lots of juco guys lately. You take juco guys (more than one per class) when you are rebuilding, not when you've been at a school for 8 years.

Oregon was a mediocre program when Ernie took over. What got him fired was his inability to balance his recruiting classes.

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Sounds like someone high up didn't like him.

Or they just took eustachy because he is a better coach (although he has some questionable personal history...)

Lmao. You think any parent of a top recruit is going to let their kid play for this guy



He'll be lucky to get Nebraska castoffs.

Terrible hire for Colorado State and a major screw up PR wise. I'm going to assume that they'll also be hiring Mike Price to be their football coach.

That was 10 years ago and he hasn't had a sip of alcohol since. he had good recruits at southern miss, a school that doesn't care about basketball, and had a great season.


lets do a blind comparison

Coach A- wins-377, losses-249
Coach B- wins-325, losses-254

Coach A-wins in last 3 years 67
Coach B- wins in last 3 years 16

Coach A- ncaa appearances 4
Coach B- ncaa appearances 6

Coach A- Conference coach of the year 4
Coach B- conference coach of the year 1

Coach A- national coach of the year 1
Coach B- national coach of the year 0

Coach A- Conference regular season championships 6
Coach B- conference regular season championships 2

Coach A- conference tournament championships 2
Coach B- conference tournament championships 3

Technically Larry Eustachy only has 3 NCAA appearances... I don't think losing in the 16 seed play in game counts.

Ernie also has about twice as many NCAA tourney wins than Eustachy.

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their conference histories are very very similar. WCC/pac10 for kent and Big West/big sky/Big12 for larry. of course, the big west was way better than the WCC back then though with UNLV

Kent = 13 years in Pac 10
Larry = 5 years in Big 12

Kent = 6 years in the WCC
Larry = 16 years in the CUSA, Big West, & Big Sky



That doesn't look very similar at all

[UOducksTK1]

their conference histories are very very similar. WCC/pac10 for kent and Big West/big sky/Big12 for larry. of course, the big west was way better than the WCC back then though with UNLV

Kent = 13 years in Pac 10
Larry = 5 years in Big 12

Kent = 6 years in the WCC
Larry = 16 years in the CUSA, Big West, & Big Sky



That doesn't look very similar at all

Unbiased context, thanks boom. Not even comparable.

[USUaggieDuck]

and kent hasn't coached for a few years. if he is better than eustachy, why hasn't anybody at all hired him? nobody wants him. how good can he be? i mean, csu picked a guy with a drinking scandal in his history over kent.

kent didn't finish better than 5th in his last 6 yrs of coaching in the pac 10, except for one yr where they finished 3rd.

[USUaggieDuck]

their conference histories are very very similar. WCC/pac10 for kent and Big West/big sky/Big12 for larry. of course, the big west was way better than the WCC back then though with UNLV

Kent = 13 years in Pac 10
Larry = 5 years in Big 12

Kent = 6 years in the WCC
Larry = 16 years in the CUSA, Big West, & Big Sky



That doesn't look very similar at all

This proves he is a better coach even more IMO. he has more wins, despite playing with worse teams. when he coached worse teams, he had to play powerhouse money games and those are auto-losses. despite that, he still has a better win-loss record.

and you all act like playing in a worse conference means easier wins....the team he is coaching is also worse than the bcs teams. it isn't like he is coaching a power team in the big sky. he is coaching a big sky team in the big sky.


and despite spending 8 years less at a BCS conference school, he won the same amount of conference championships in those years. 5 years in the big 12, 3 championships. kent had 13 years and 3 championships.

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their conference histories are very very similar. WCC/pac10 for kent and Big West/big sky/Big12 for larry. of course, the big west was way better than the WCC back then though with UNLV

Kent = 13 years in Pac 10
Larry = 5 years in Big 12

Kent = 6 years in the WCC
Larry = 16 years in the CUSA, Big West, & Big Sky



That doesn't look very similar at all

This proves he is a better coach even more IMO. he has more wins, despite playing with worse teams. when he coached worse teams, he had to play powerhouse money games and those are auto-losses. despite that, he still has a better win-loss record.

This isn't football... I've looked at his recent out of conference schedule... and there was no "powerhouse money games".

and you all act like playing in a worse conference means easier wins....the team he is coaching is also worse than the bcs teams. it isn't like he is coaching a power team in the big sky. he is coaching a big sky team in the big sky.

The only wins I care to compare are NCAA Tourneys

But you also need to realize that Oregon basketball wasn't even on the map before Kent took over the program... and the disparity between Oregon and teams like UCLA, Arizona, & Standford were far greater than comparing any two big sky programs.

Ernie competed against some of the best players and coaches in the country... you're being dishonest if you think that compares to what Larry did in any lesser conference.

and despite spending 8 years less at a BCS conference school, he won the same amount of conference championships in those years. 5 years in the big 12, 3 championships. kent had 13 years and 3 championships.

He only had 2 conference championships at Iowa State and that was mostly with Tim Floyd's players.

He finished near the bottom of the Big 12 after Marcus Fizer and Jamal Tinsley graduated. He wasn't far from being fired even before his scandal.

[buckmarkduck]

Green and his staff left UO in pretty good shape for Kent, just FYI. Honestly Greens staff was pretty awesome and had things going well.

[maxduck]

Green and his staff left UO in pretty good shape for Kent, just FYI. Honestly Greens staff was pretty awesome and had things going well.

Oregon lost 3 starter off Green's last team, Rob Ramaker, Kyle Milling, and Kenya Wilkins, although Ernie did inherit point guard Mike McShane. Green brought in a lot of JC's and many of them had "issues".

[buckmarkduck]

He inherited a pretty talented local named AD Smith.

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Green and his staff left UO in pretty good shape for Kent, just FYI. Honestly Greens staff was pretty awesome and had things going well.

Not trying to discredit him, but he was 72-70 after 5 years.... He may have certainly improved on that if he had stayed, but that's difficult to predict.

I think the emergence of Oregon basketball really started with the 99-00 team and then the recruitment of the Lukes.

[buckmarkduck]

Monson left the program in shambles. Green and his staff (guys like Turgeon and CU HC Boyle) took UO to it's first NCAA tourney since the 1961.

[maxduck]

He inherited a pretty talented local named AD Smith.

I think it is more accurate that AD Smith developed into a talented player. He wasn't highly recruited out of high school (recruiting trips to Gonzaga, St Mary's, and University of Portland) and wasn't in the starting lineup as a freshman. Jerry Green only offered him a one year scholarship and told him he probably wouldn't receive aid as a sophomore but he could "possibly play into one as a junior and senior".

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 44,7083584

[buckmarkduck]

Every scholarship is only 1 year. And Ad was a dam good HS player.

[maxduck]

Every scholarship is only 1 year. And Ad was a dam good HS player.

Technically true, and also true the vast majority of D1 scholarships go to players who were good in high school. However, they had three years to evaluate a local player and didn't offer until late March, specifically telling him he probably needed to pay his own way after one year. Jerry Green considered AD barely above walk on status, to claim otherwise is an attempt to rewrite history.