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Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:33 am
by UofDuck
Penn State will get nailed. No doubt about it, and rightly so. JoPa and co. were obligated to abide by the law and what is morally correct. They covered up the situation to directly benefit the football team, or not let the the football team suffer the consequences of the horrific actions of one of their coaches, and some of the school leadership knew about it and let it happen. As such, kid's lifes are screwed up. The NCAA has the right to punish Penn State on its statement that programs/coaches are to act in an ethical manner. If ever a program failed to do that, it was Penn State and JoPa.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:01 am
by Duck07
Being able to field a collegiate football program is a privilege, it is not a right. Its contradictory to argue the possible effects on a persons life sans psu football when you consider the nightmare that was just allowed to continue because its psu football.
If ME/NCAA throw out the death-penalty and PSU doesn't play football for a decade, I've got no problem with it. They've got an elite volleyball program in state college, the psu fans can focus their energy there during the fall.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:39 am
by lukeyrid13
I think a 10 year tv ban is pretty harsh yet satisfactory punishment. It will make PSU irrelevant outside of State College and still doesn't totally hurt their fans like the death penalty would
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:57 pm
by UofDuck
lukeyrid13 wrote:I think a 10 year tv ban is pretty harsh yet satisfactory punishment. It will make PSU irrelevant outside of State College and still doesn't totally hurt their fans like the death penalty would
That is a great point, but with the advent of the B1G network, how do you do that without hurting who they are playing? TV has changed since the days of TV bans when only a few games aired each week. Interesting topic to consider. On the other hand, Penn State is a member of a conference and perhaps the conference needs to pay a piece of the penalty too? Not sure about that though.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:41 am
by Zyme
This issues turns my stomach, this program should be nuked and be disbanded. What they did was heinous and unforgivable. Systemic willful ignorance at the highest levels.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:44 am
by Tray Dub
Kill it. That program is the most toxic thing in collegiate athletics I've ever heard of.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:31 pm
by buckmarkduck
Just heard on the radio, students are still rallying around the JoePa statue. They are even taking shifts to protect it from vandals or from being torn down. The fans of PSU don't deserve anyone's pity.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:08 am
by Duck07
4 year post-season ban.
$60M to a general sex abuse victims fund
1998-2012 wins vacated, Paterno now 12th coach by wins.
10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:52 am
by Duck24
Ouch.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:57 am
by Elduderino
Duck07 wrote:4 year post-season ban.
$60M to a general sex abuse victims fund
1998-2012 wins vacated, Paterno now 12th coach by wins.
10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period.
Glad to see the funding for abuse included. NCAA brought the hammer.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 8:58 am
by frogsnouts
I'll never understand taking scholarships from kids who had nothing to do with this and wanted to go to the school, but otherwise it sounds fair.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:08 am
by maxduck
frogsnouts wrote:I'll never understand taking scholarships from kids who had nothing to do with this and wanted to go to the school, but otherwise it sounds fair.
To me this isn't an issue. Thousands of kids each year don't get a scholarship to their dream school simply because somebody else was bigger, faster, stronger, smarter, etc. This isn't any different.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:46 am
by ncduck
I think it's fair, but maybe I would have liked it more if it were tougher.
Either way, this program is irrelevant for the next decade.
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:09 am
by woundedknees
Think Penn State will work the scholarship limits as well as USC has?
Re: Emmert over-stepping his bounds?
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:37 am
by Duck24
woundedknees wrote:Think Penn State will work the scholarship limits as well as USC has?
They can't appeal like USC was able to. USC being able to appeal and draw the process out helped them immensely in terms of planning, loading classes, etc. Penn State is screwed. That program is going down the toilet. Why would any upper echelon prospect go to Penn State at this point? No bowls, lesser talent around you due to the scholarship reduction, program has so much bad press around it etc.