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Re: Gunnar Kiel to Transfer from Notre Dame

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:31 pm
by squintsdd
Duck24 wrote:
squintsdd wrote:
Duck24 wrote:
squintsdd wrote:
Duck24 wrote:
squintsdd wrote: Chances are he would've been no lower than 3rd, likely 2nd. Golson was a good game manager but not overly impressive, so if Kiel performed extremely well in spring he may have even been considered to have a very slim chance to start.

There were questions during his recruitment about him not wanting to compete for the starting spot, which is why many people think he originally picked Indiana, then decommited from LSU. He viewed ND as a very high profile school that would give him a good chance to start with little competition.
Don't think a kid who hasn't played a down would have passed Tommy Rees, who has started games as recently as this last season.
Think again. Rees wasn't very impressive either. Proven by the fact that he lost the starting spot to a kid that had also never played a down in college. Rees was a decent game manager also but he threw nearly as many interceptions as he did touchdowns. Kiel very well could've passed him on the depth chart if he really wanted to put forth the effort.
I'm just going to assume you didn't see the ND games vs Michigan and Stanford when you call him a decent game manager. Stats don't accurately depict his impact on those games and the season overall. Whenever Golson struggled, they'd put Rees in and end up winning.
By that logic tell me this; if Rees was so good why wasn't he the year round starter? And if Golson was so good why did he struggle to the point that he would need to be replaced by the guy who didn't win the starting spot.

Oh, and everyone on god's green earth knows that Stanford won that game
Golson was a RS Freshman and played like it from time to time. Not every Frosh QB can play like Mariota and Manziel. ND was just lucky they had a competent backup. Back to the topic at hand though, I highly doubt Kiel would have supplanted Rees. The guy had started/played meaningful snaps in 3 consecutive years.

As for the Stanford game, how were they a shoe in to win the game? The score was 20-13 when Taylor was ruled down. If they say that Taylor scored then Stanford is kicking a PAT to play another OT.
I get what you're saying, but you're not following your own logic. Your argument is that Rees has the experience therefore he won't be overtaken on the depth chart, but you fail to account for the fact that Rees had started and played meaningful minutes before he lost the starting spot to golson, who also had not played a single minute of college ball. I'm not saying kiel would've for sure passed him, but he had a good shot at it.

And you're right the game would've been tied. I should've said he was in the end zone

Re: Gunnar Kiel to Transfer from Notre Dame

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:30 am
by Bud Lee
Dude is likely to end up at a smaller school like BB and then maybe transfer to a larger school.

Re: Gunnar Kiel to Transfer from Notre Dame

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:59 am
by lukeyrid13
Kiel is the perfect example of the 'recruiting era' backfiring. Guys like Kiel and Tate Forcier and many others are brought up as the next big thing and have grown men fawning all over them when they're 15 years old and these kids grow to have an immense sense of entitlement. Guys aren't patient anymore to wait and get playing time.

Re: Gunnar Kiel to Transfer from Notre Dame

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:22 pm
by Quack_12
Phenom wrote:Lol kid is crazy. He decommitted from 2-3 schools before choosing ND.
Yup that is what Clowns do Bra

Re: Gunnar Kiel to Transfer from Notre Dame

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:27 pm
by buckmarkduck
Quack_12 wrote:
Phenom wrote:Lol kid is crazy. He decommitted from 2-3 schools before choosing ND.
Yup that is what Clowns do Bra
We have a ton of guys who decommitted from other schools before finally choosing UO. We also have a ton of guys who have left to get PT other places, still not seeing how he is the bad guy here. Is it because he was so highly rated coming out of HS? If he had been a 3* no one would even give a second thought about him transferring.