Re: 21
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 9:59 pm
Why on earth haven’t we seen more of him earlier??
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Learning pass pro.DuckMastaFunk wrote:Why on earth haven’t we seen more of him earlier??
Still to soon lolQuietduck wrote:no broken legs...
Well, Verdell won’t be getting any. If you’re saying Dye should get fewer carries than the young guys, I don’t agree. Dye is still best all around. If you’re saying the young guys need a larger share of carries, I agree.UOducksTK1 wrote:For those saying Thompson should start over AB, no.
For those saying young guys should get more carries vs Dye/Verdell, yes.
I meant just more than 0 carries.wlduck wrote:Well, Verdell won’t be getting any. If you’re saying Dye should get fewer carries than the young guys, I don’t agree. Dye is still best all around. If you’re saying the young guys need a larger share of carries, I agree.UOducksTK1 wrote:For those saying Thompson should start over AB, no.
For those saying young guys should get more carries vs Dye/Verdell, yes.
Since we’re on the RB topic, I don’t think Benson is going to get much time, ever. He doesn’t have the extra gear the other guys do.
I love how one bad drive by Thompson has everyone writing him off.UOducksTK1 wrote:For those saying Thompson should start over AB, no.
For those saying young guys should get more carries vs Dye/Verdell, yes.
I wrote something kinda lengthy a couple weeks back and I've quoted it below. Specifically called out* recurring problems of underthrowing targets and throwing into coverage. I agree that 3 passes doesn't make a man, but his updated stats from spring game to now are 12/24, 157 yards, 4 INT-worthy passes. I'm not saying we should jump off the train, but saying Thompson will be ready for Georgia in 2022 is an optimistic view.karlhungis wrote:
I love how one bad drive by Thompson has everyone writing him off.
StevensTechU wrote:
Ty's numbers from the Spring Game through the Arizona game are 11/21 (52%) for 152 yards. He's connected on zero deep balls (54 yarder to Dont'e Thornton was about 15 yards passed the line of scrimmage which Thornton then took the distance). He has zero interceptions but has had 3 "INT-worthy" passes (2 in the spring game, 1 against Stony Brook). We've seen him elude the pass rush but not much for designed runs or improvised rushes (statistically, he has 2 rushes for -3 yards on the season). In high school, he passed for 59% as a senior with far above average WRs (that is to say, drops were not a significant factor).
Compared to Brown, he's actually quite similar. Neither has great accuracy, as Brown (56%) tends to overthrow and Thompson underthrows receivers. We know Brown can make plays with his feet in the RPO game, but that's only when he makes the right reads (good: Fresno and tOSU; bad: Arizona and Stanford), which opens up the playbook. The verdict on Thompson in that regard is still out. An area Brown has excelled in is in taking care of the football. By my unofficial count, he's had 4 INT-worthy passes in 124 attempts. As mentioned above, 3 of Thompson's 21 passes could've/should've been picked.
It used to accepted, almost assumed, that players would take a RS year their first year in college to get up to speed. At some point in the last 10 years, expectations have changed, and I see guys being labeled busts or people disappointed when they aren't immediately ready upon coming to campus. I think there have been exceptions to the rule, where guys hit the ground running, and from that has spawned the expectation that every 4 and 5 star is ready to contribute from day 1. The star system doesn't necessarily indicate where the prospect is at this moment, but rather their future potential. However, people expect 5 stars to be immediate impact players. Here's a good article I think that explains the rating systems (I just Googled the rating systems and it was the top one to come up, I assure you I'm not scouring Coug boards!), and an example of the Rivals rating criteria below. Notice that a lot of it is about future potential, not where are they now.lukeyrid13 wrote:^ Mariota even needed a RS year.