Miami actively trying to hire Mario? Edit: MC is Miami's HC

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That’s aggressive?
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With all the supposed incentives, it is.
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bellsduck wrote:Oregon is a better job. Period.
I'm just curious why you think this. Even laying aside the fact that Mario is from Florida and Miami is his Alma Mater where he won 2 National Championships, it seems like there are a lot of reasons to pick Miami over Oregon.

1. Government: Florida has way less restrictions about mask-wearing, vaccinations, and no income tax.

2. Money: Miami is likely to outbid Oregon for Mario's services, and we all know how how high a regard that region has for football.

3. Weather: (I'm not even going to bother explaining this one)

4. Recruiting: You go from one of the lightest areas for D-1 recruits in the nation to Grand Central Station for blue-chippers. You go from traveling 900 miles to L.A. to going out on your front porch and ringing the dinner bell.

Whatever issues Miami has in order to resuscitate the program, it seems like Mario has already been through worse and come out on a positive trajectory. I'm not sure how worried he is about achieving a similar result on his own home turf. I think we are kidding ourselves. The only real argument we have is that he might stay out of loyalty because Oregon gave him his big break. How long is he required to stay to pay it back?
I'm sure it is the mask mandates that are fueling his decision.....
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Miami just doesn't have to beat us in Salary, they have to commit to building facilities that so far they've avoided doing as well as providing the Assistant Coach Salary pool he desires.

I get the recruiting and weather pull, but he knows he's coming from a position of strength and if Miami doesn't commit 175M+ between facilities, his salary and his assistants, they aren't getting him because he won't go into the job letting those problems undermine him all because they're paying him 10-12 Million a year.
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It depends on how confident CMC is in himself and his personal nostalgia/connection to Miami. There are obvious reasons for why he'd want to go back. However, I'll just toss in the fact that taking the Miami job will put a lot of pressure on him. The fans there will expect him to take them back to the glory days, and I think the last time Miami won their conference, it wasn't even called the ACC.
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karlhungis wrote:
Phalanx wrote:
bellsduck wrote:Oregon is a better job. Period.
I'm just curious why you think this. Even laying aside the fact that Mario is from Florida and Miami is his Alma Mater where he won 2 National Championships, it seems like there are a lot of reasons to pick Miami over Oregon.

1. Government: Florida has way less restrictions about mask-wearing, vaccinations, and no income tax.

2. Money: Miami is likely to outbid Oregon for Mario's services, and we all know how how high a regard that region has for football.

3. Weather: (I'm not even going to bother explaining this one)

4. Recruiting: You go from one of the lightest areas for D-1 recruits in the nation to Grand Central Station for blue-chippers. You go from traveling 900 miles to L.A. to going out on your front porch and ringing the dinner bell.

Whatever issues Miami has in order to resuscitate the program, it seems like Mario has already been through worse and come out on a positive trajectory. I'm not sure how worried he is about achieving a similar result on his own home turf. I think we are kidding ourselves. The only real argument we have is that he might stay out of loyalty because Oregon gave him his big break. How long is he required to stay to pay it back?
I'm sure it is the mask mandates that are fueling his decision.....
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Masks and COVID safety will play zero role in Mario's decision. For all we know, he may see our state's commitment to safety as a plus. Also, our restrictions are temporary. Most restrictions have been rolled back and vaccine mandates for entertainment will eventually be rolled back too.

But weather and recruiting? Yeah, huge pluses for Miami.

That said, he has spent years building a program here and he seems grounded enough to know the grass isn't always greener someplace else. (And not many places have more shades of green than here.)

I think he stays. His mother may be the deciding factor, but for people with his means, distance isn't nearly as much of an issue.

Tough call, but I think he signs our extension.
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ducks5ever wrote:It depends on how confident CMC is in himself and his personal nostalgia/connection to Miami. There are obvious reasons for why he'd want to go back. However, I'll just toss in the fact that taking the Miami job will put a lot of pressure on him. The fans there will expect him to take them back to the glory days, and I think the last time Miami won their conference, it wasn't even called the ACC.
Great point!

There has to be conflicting thoughts for MC. I just hope he loves it here as much as he said he does. I wonder how his wife feels about it?

Word is that Lane Kiffin is ready to jump at the chance to coach Miami if offered.
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karlhungis wrote:
I'm sure it is the mask mandates that are fueling his decision.....
I don't pretend to know how Mario feels about masks, vaccines, or even weather. But if you don't know that people are moving out of Oregon all the time because of mask and vaccine mandates, you are clueless. People are flocking to places like Florida and Texas for this reason every day.
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ducks5ever wrote:It depends on how confident CMC is in himself and his personal nostalgia/connection to Miami. There are obvious reasons for why he'd want to go back. However, I'll just toss in the fact that taking the Miami job will put a lot of pressure on him. The fans there will expect him to take them back to the glory days, and I think the last time Miami won their conference, it wasn't even called the ACC.
Great point!

There has to be conflicting thoughts for MC. I just hope he loves it here as much as he said he does. I wonder how his wife feels about it?

Word is that Lane Kiffin is ready to jump at the chance to coach Miami if offered.
Here's a thought, what about Lane Kiffin to Oregon if Mario left?

Kiffin has grown up a bit after time on Nick Saban's staff at Alabama and the guy wins wherever he goes. He's a great recruiter and has ties to the south, as well as his west coast ties. He might be able to bring other top notch recruiters with him, as well.

I'd rather keep Mario, but if he were to leave, I wouldn't be opposed to hiring Kiffin.
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I might be wrong but the fact that he is a Miami guy gives me more confidence that he'll stay at Oregon. Oregon is very similar to Miami in many ways. The O on the Oregon helmet is similar to the U on Miami's helmet and they have similar colors. The mascot of Oregon is a white Duck while Miami's is a white Stork. Also Oregon and Miami are both very trendy schools that aren't quite blue blood programs. I think Mario could build at Oregon what Miami was in the 80's.
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Duck07 wrote: If he takes the Miami job I won't be hurt by it. Pep Hamilton for OC or HC depending on what Mario does though. That's my wildcard choice.
Naw you won't be hurt by it but it will set the program back 10 years so as an Oregon fan it hurts me because I actually care. I don't even know who Pep Hamilton is and I doubt he'll have Oregon on the level that us fans expect.
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Duck07 wrote: If he takes the Miami job I won't be hurt by it. Pep Hamilton for OC or HC depending on what Mario does though. That's my wildcard choice.
Naw you won't be hurt by it but it will set the program back 10 years so as an Oregon fan it hurts me because I actually care. I don't even know who Pep Hamilton is and I doubt he'll have Oregon on the level that us fans expect.
You don't know who Pep Hamilton is? Maybe you should bow out of the debate for being terrible informed

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duck023 wrote:
Duck07 wrote: If he takes the Miami job I won't be hurt by it. Pep Hamilton for OC or HC depending on what Mario does though. That's my wildcard choice.
Naw you won't be hurt by it but it will set the program back 10 years so as an Oregon fan it hurts me because I actually care. I don't even know who Pep Hamilton is and I doubt he'll have Oregon on the level that us fans expect.
You don't know who Pep Hamilton is? Maybe you should bow out of the debate for being terrible informed

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Seems like another Willie Taggert and I was right about Willie not being Oregon material heck he didn't even want to coach at Oregon. I'm not falling for this twice. This guy isn't the guy. Maybe you should understand that if I don't know who the guy then he isn't likely in the Power 5 and that should be a big hint that he isn't ready to coach Oregon. I do know who Clay Helton is and you want a coach like him. A little school coach that can't take the pressure.
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Phalanx wrote:
karlhungis wrote:
I'm sure it is the mask mandates that are fueling his decision.....
I don't pretend to know how Mario feels about masks, vaccines, or even weather. But if you don't know that people are moving out of Oregon all the time because of mask and vaccine mandates, you are clueless. People are flocking to places like Florida and Texas for this reason every day.
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