#8 Oregon @ Colorado (Nov. 5, Sat 12:30 PM ESPN)
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Re: #8 Oregon @ Colorado (Nov. 5, Sat 12:30 PM ESPN)
rockthief wrote:Our pass D is terrible, one of the worst. Eight games in I would expect improvement. Perhaps this game will be better. We also need much improvement on special teams and third down defense. Ugh. Go Ducks!bellsduck wrote:Yes they are much better. Their QB play has been great and may people would argue our pass defense is not stellar.buckmarkduck wrote:Is uw that much better than Cal or UA? I bet by the 4th qrt we have a 3 score lead.
Our pass D has been fine until we go to the 4th guarded and start playing prevent. Against Cal it was our backups getting burned. And if UW is so much better, why didn’t they blow them out? Oh that’s right, because they aren’t that good. Their running game is non existent, and their D is as bad as any we will play this year. We drop 69 on them, unless we call off the dogs, the way Lanning has in every game.
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After the Cal game Oregon is 101st in pass efficiency defense and 126th in 3rd down defense and that’s after Cal’s garbage offense, before the Cal game they were lower. And lately Oregon’s 4th down defense hasn’t been good, currently they’re tied with many other teams at 57th and have allowed conversion on 50% of opponents 4th down conversions. I hate to say it, but the numbers don’t lie, Oregon’s defense is not good, statistically. Only argument in their favor is the PAC-12 is probably the most efficient and overall best conference in terms of passing offense so that may not tell the truth as Oregon is 9th in the conference for overall Pass defense and 3rd down defense, however being in the company of Washington, Colorado, Arizona, and Arizona State also doesn’t look good.buckmarkduck wrote:rockthief wrote:Our pass D is terrible, one of the worst. Eight games in I would expect improvement. Perhaps this game will be better. We also need much improvement on special teams and third down defense. Ugh. Go Ducks!bellsduck wrote:Yes they are much better. Their QB play has been great and may people would argue our pass defense is not stellar.buckmarkduck wrote:Is uw that much better than Cal or UA? I bet by the 4th qrt we have a 3 score lead.
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Our pass D has been fine until we go to the 4th guarded and start playing prevent. Against Cal it was our backups getting burned.

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OregonFan4Life wrote:After the Cal game Oregon is 101st in pass efficiency defense and 126th in 3rd down defense and that’s after Cal’s garbage offense, before the Cal game they were lower. And lately Oregon’s 4th down defense hasn’t been good, currently they’re tied with many other teams at 57th and have allowed conversion on 50% of opponents 4th down conversions. I hate to say it, but the numbers don’t lie, Oregon’s defense is not good, statistically. Only argument in their favor is the PAC-12 is probably the most efficient and overall best conference in terms of passing offense so that may not tell the truth as Oregon is 9th in the conference for overall Pass defense and 3rd down defense, however being in the company of Washington, Colorado, Arizona, and Arizona State also doesn’t look good.buckmarkduck wrote:rockthief wrote:Our pass D is terrible, one of the worst. Eight games in I would expect improvement. Perhaps this game will be better. We also need much improvement on special teams and third down defense. Ugh. Go Ducks!bellsduck wrote:Yes they are much better. Their QB play has been great and may people would argue our pass defense is not stellar.buckmarkduck wrote:Is uw that much better than Cal or UA? I bet by the 4th qrt we have a 3 score lead.
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Our pass D has been fine until we go to the 4th guarded and start playing prevent. Against Cal it was our backups getting burned.
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Re: #8 Oregon @ Colorado (Nov. 5, Sat 12:30 PM ESPN)
Eh, that is true what Schwartz said, to an extent. The starting defense certainly could be better, we’ve seen them shredded multiple times this season, including WSU who has looked far from stellar offensively outside of the Oregon game. For me like I said during the Cal game thread, my biggest concern is the defense next year, we’ll probably lose a lot of guys on defense and our backups are getting destroyed by the opponents backups, what’s going to happen when they start? Hopefully Lanning hits the transfer portal hard.
TLDR: IMO the defense isn’t one of the worst but is a problem, however the backup defense gives up a lot of points inflating Oregon‘a bad defensive rankings and we should be concerned about the defense next year.
Edit: Also Schwartz’s tweet is a little misleading. The starters played all of the UCLA game and I believed they played most of the BYU game. The only times I’ve seen the backups completely in and give up points were against Stanford, Zona, and Cal. Late scores against Oregon’s starters shouldn’t count in their favor.
TLDR: IMO the defense isn’t one of the worst but is a problem, however the backup defense gives up a lot of points inflating Oregon‘a bad defensive rankings and we should be concerned about the defense next year.
Edit: Also Schwartz’s tweet is a little misleading. The starters played all of the UCLA game and I believed they played most of the BYU game. The only times I’ve seen the backups completely in and give up points were against Stanford, Zona, and Cal. Late scores against Oregon’s starters shouldn’t count in their favor.

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His teeet after that did say UCLA was against our starters fwiw. As for next year, the portal is going to be crazy. Our best DBs this year are both transfers. At LB, Our backups have been playing really good. I can’t begin to believe how much Love has improved Keith Brown. I’m actually excited to see how he, Flowe, LaDuke and the rest do next year. Swinson also showed to solid stuff Saturday, hope he sticks around.
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Bridges has gotten burned a few times, and Florence is doing freshman things…but our biggest problem in pass defense has been the LBs
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chapelhillduck wrote:Bridges has gotten burned a few times, and Florence is doing freshman things…but our biggest problem in pass defense has been the LBs
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Namely Flowe. And if you go back and watch the play before the last TD Cal scores, Flowe is to worried about bullying his guy to turn around and realize he was in perfect position to get a pick 6.
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Sticking to my guns on this: Our pass defense is crap. You can lipstick that pig all you want, but outside of Gonzalez we suck. Our LB's suck, our corners (outside of Gonzalez) don't us proper technique on deep balls, don't even get me started on Bridges, and our safeties don't seem to be that fast. BIG area of concern more than halfway through the season.
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Re: #8 Oregon @ Colorado (Nov. 5, Sat 12:30 PM ESPN)
Bennet Williams has been very solid. Best tackler on the team in my estimation.nogerO wrote:Sticking to my guns on this: Our pass defense is crap. You can lipstick that pig all you want, but outside of Gonzalez we suck. Our LB's suck, our corners (outside of Gonzalez) don't us proper technique on deep balls, don't even get me started on Bridges, and our safeties don't seem to be that fast. BIG area of concern more than halfway through the season.
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Yes. Sorry left him out. A good one.UofDuck wrote:Bennet Williams has been very solid. Best tackler on the team in my estimation.nogerO wrote:Sticking to my guns on this: Our pass defense is crap. You can lipstick that pig all you want, but outside of Gonzalez we suck. Our LB's suck, our corners (outside of Gonzalez) don't us proper technique on deep balls, don't even get me started on Bridges, and our safeties don't seem to be that fast. BIG area of concern more than halfway through the season.
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Re: #8 Oregon @ Colorado (Nov. 5, Sat 12:30 PM ESPN)
Everyone remembers the long pass plays but, with our offense, even if you get beat deep two or three times it doesn’t have that big of an impact on the game. What kills us is getting beat underneath over and over all game. That’s why our 3rd down defense is so poor and we struggle to get stops. And that has everything to do with our linebackers. Our only close games are due to this; Georgia and Washington State just went underneath all game, and we couldn’t stop it.buckmarkduck wrote:chapelhillduck wrote:Bridges has gotten burned a few times, and Florence is doing freshman things…but our biggest problem in pass defense has been the LBs
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Namely Flowe. And if you go back and watch the play before the last TD Cal scores, Flowe is to worried about bullying his guy to turn around and realize he was in perfect position to get a pick 6.
Bridges obviously has some room to improve but part of what’s happening is teams aren’t going after Gonzalez, so they’re attacking Bridge’s side of the field all game. Given his experience and skill set, I think he’s performed admirably. He does a lot of other things well that a typical corner couldn’t. He routinely blows up quick screens and makes lots of plays around the line of scrimmage. But people only remember the one or two times you get beat deep.
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Re: #8 Oregon @ Colorado (Nov. 5, Sat 12:30 PM ESPN)
Bridges is getting close to being able to put it all together. Once he learns to pivot his head better to locate the ball he's not going to be getting picked on anymore.

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Re: #8 Oregon @ Colorado (Nov. 5, Sat 12:30 PM ESPN)
The LB’s has been really bad this year, easily the worst unit on the team, and as a result they make the entire defense look worse when in reality the DLine is good and the secondary isn’t that bad. In all areas the LB’s have been been but they’ve been extra bad in pass coverage. This shouldn’t be surprising to anyone cause as bad as the LB’s are they were even worse last year, but everyone was so focused on Anthony Brown and the putrid offense nobody noticed that the LB’s were getting beat by everyone. Not sure if people don’t want to admit the LB’s are as bad as they are cause we were all so excited about Sewell and Flowe, but if the LB’s played well and to their potential this would be a playoff team. It’s also weird the worst unit is arguably the most talented unit. Eventually I think we’ll see quality LB play under Lanning and Tosh, but Ken Wilson screwed these guys up badly with his crappy coaching and Sewell and Flowe being injured during camp also hurt a lot. For the most part the LB’s have improved this season, not by a lot, but they have improved.

