WR Traeshon Holden arrested and dismissed from team

[nogerO]

Is he being drug tested? Mentally ill? Seriously. Free school with tutors almost guaranteed degree? Nutrition and body shaping at his disposal? Probably free NIL $$$. Playing in a very high profile program and he reverts to this sort of behavior? WTF? Good riddance. We’ll be fine. Addition by subtraction In my view.

[Alan]

I, for one, applaud Lanning for acting so swiftly and for sending a clear message to current and future players. He had enough information to make a decision just a few hours after a 12:30 am arrest. It seems to me it is as simple as a gun was involved and used to threaten others. Here is some more details on the arrest from he registered guard.

https://www.registerguard.com/story/spo ... 907665007/

[dthomas=ddixon]

Very unfortunate. I’m a fan of giving guys second chances but it’s safe to assume Lanning is privy to details the public isn’t. At face value pulling a gun on someone who just pepper sprayed you is stupid and illegal but could be a matter of not understanding the laws and/or a bad decision in the heat of the moment.

Hopefully he can learn from this and it doesn’t send him down a bad path.

[lmduck]

Very unfortunate. I’m a fan of giving guys second chances but it’s safe to assume Lanning is privy to details the public isn’t. At face value pulling a gun on someone who just pepper sprayed you is stupid and illegal but could be a matter of not understanding the laws and/or a bad decision in the heat of the moment.

Hopefully he can learn from this and it doesn’t send him down a bad path.

Bad decisions in the heat of the moment are often times crimes.

I'm a fan of second chances too and I have to agree with your premise that DL has information that is not public. There has also been some word floating around that AD legal counsel provided guidance in this matter so there must be some there there.

Tough lesson to learn but actions have consequences and unfortunately in this case the consequences are not good.

[73duck]

> pulling a gun on someone who just pepper sprayed you is stupid and illegal

Without more facts, it is not illegal. Pointing a gun at someone (as opposed to shooting someone) is physical force, not deadly physical force. You can use physical force to stop someone from pepper spraying you (or dissuading someone from doing it again) *if* the pepper spraying was or would be unlawful. I'm sure that was not the case here; for example, if you were assaulting someone illegally, and they pepper sprayed you in self defense, pulling a gun on them would be unlawful.

[rockthief]

Placing himself in a "fight" situation was stupid. Lanning's message was quick and clear. I wonder what his players think about this? The thug life has consequences. Holden's cool factor was tacked for a huge loss.

[lmduck]

Placing himself in a "fight" situation was stupid. Lanning's message was quick and clear. I wonder what his players think about this? The thug life has consequences. Holden's cool factor was tacked for a huge loss.

I am going to assume Lanning is pretty clear about what the standards and expectations are.

I would guess the message to the players is that DL isn't putting up with any BS.

[duckfan22]

Placing himself in a "fight" situation was stupid. Lanning's message was quick and clear. I wonder what his players think about this? The thug life has consequences. Holden's cool factor was tacked for a huge loss.

I am going to assume Lanning is pretty clear about what the standards and expectations are.

I would guess the message to the players is that DL isn't putting up with any BS.

1) should not have been in a fight situation walk away and protect your future
2) If he had a gun where did he get it? was it registered to him? that may be
one of the issues they are not talking about.
3) if he has the talent and asperations to play at the next level dont be stupid.

[duckfan96]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

[greenyellow]

From watching the local news in Eugene, the DA in Lane County just announced they are not going to prosecute Holden for the incident.

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[OregonFan4Life]

I’ve been reserving judgment cause I don’t really know what happened, I wasn’t there. Obviously the illegal use of a gun isn’t good but we truly don’t know what led to the events. I remember Clownzano all over Chip for not kicking LMJ off the team after that dispute he had, then the police report came out and we all saw this his ex-girlfriend was crazy. Obviously this is different cause he had a gun but we don’t know who initiated the conflict. I imagine DL has a pretty strict no gun policy though, especially if owned illegally.

[greenyellow]

I do wonder what happens to him now. I could see him being reinstated and having to complete a few things to get in good standing again but having DL kick him off the team so fast might give him the impression the coaches don't have his back and he needs to find somewhere else to play that does.

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[OregonFan4Life]

Lanning may have screwed this one up.

[dthomas=ddixon]

> pulling a gun on someone who just pepper sprayed you is stupid and illegal

Without more facts, it is not illegal. Pointing a gun at someone (as opposed to shooting someone) is physical force, not deadly physical force. You can use physical force to stop someone from pepper spraying you (or dissuading someone from doing it again) *if* the pepper spraying was or would be unlawful. I'm sure that was not the case here; for example, if you were assaulting someone illegally, and they pepper sprayed you in self defense, pulling a gun on them would be unlawful.

Got it. I was under the impression that would be deadly force, and that unless your life is actually in danger, drawing a loaded handgun on someone made you the perpetrator.

[karlhungis]

Lanning may have screwed this one up.

I doubt he made the decision in a vacuum. I'm sure he had a lot more info that you regarding the situation.