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BearlyBalanced wrote:All that may be true, but I have a hard time believing CKDB players will often be out-coached or schemed.
He knows how to motivate players the right way and is an incredibly solid game coach who can get 137% from even marginal talent players.
Our current team, recruiting-rankings-wise, should have BLOWN them out the water.

Like it or not (and for the record, I EEEFFFFING HATE IT), the doogs really scored with that coaching hire and I really don't think he's concerned about not getting his players though their fans might be.
Lanning's team lost by a last-second missed field goal on the road in front of 71k opposing fans. Say what you want to say about them as recruits, but uw has NFL guys at QB, 3-4 at WR, OT, 2 DE, and ILB. It's washington's most talented team since their playoff team, which is why they've won handily in every game but this one, and why they beat Texas solidly in their bowl game last year.

Literally nobody would "blow them out of the water." Uw would probably be favored against Georgia at home.

3 point loss. On the road.

Well UGA just lost their best player for the year. Penix is probably the best qb uw has ever had, at least best since Moon. I still feel if Rome and Troy switched teams, Franklin would have way better stats. He’s got the gear Rome doesn’t have Troy already has more TDs in 6 games this year than RO had in 13 last year for reference
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buckmarkduck wrote:
StevensTechU wrote:
BearlyBalanced wrote:All that may be true, but I have a hard time believing CKDB players will often be out-coached or schemed.
He knows how to motivate players the right way and is an incredibly solid game coach who can get 137% from even marginal talent players.
Our current team, recruiting-rankings-wise, should have BLOWN them out the water.

Like it or not (and for the record, I EEEFFFFING HATE IT), the doogs really scored with that coaching hire and I really don't think he's concerned about not getting his players though their fans might be.
Lanning's team lost by a last-second missed field goal on the road in front of 71k opposing fans. Say what you want to say about them as recruits, but uw has NFL guys at QB, 3-4 at WR, OT, 2 DE, and ILB. It's washington's most talented team since their playoff team, which is why they've won handily in every game but this one, and why they beat Texas solidly in their bowl game last year.

Literally nobody would "blow them out of the water." Uw would probably be favored against Georgia at home.

3 point loss. On the road.

Well UGA just lost their best player for the year. Penix is probably the best qb uw has ever had, at least best since Moon. I still feel if Rome and Troy switched teams, Franklin would have way better stats. He’s got the gear Rome doesn’t have Troy already has more TDs in 6 games this year than RO had in 13 last year for reference
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This loss feels a lot like when the OSU team with Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh that went up to Seattle and also lost by a last-second missed field goal early in the season. In both cases, UW was fortunate to be at home and probably should have lost. Hopefully, it motivates the team rather than discourages them. Everything is still on the table for Oregon this year.
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lmduck wrote:There is also a very good chance DeBoer loses Grubb to a HC job.

Totally agree DeBoer is a very good coach and as I said UW fans have two major fears, his recruiting and lack thereof AND many UW insiders believe he has his sights set on the NFL. Just stuff that is floating out there.


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That's interesting. If so, he'd probably want to make the jump after this season since he'd be losing so much talent.

I wonder who'd replace him if he did leave? Lane Kiffin has been wanting to get back to the west coast. He's a sold recruiter. Tosh is another potential candidate, if not for the HC job, but possibly to join Kiffin if he were hired.

Just pure speculation, of course.
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Well DeBoer doesn't run a scheme that can work in the NFL so that would be hilarious to me if he leaves. The Chicago Bears have #1 and #2 in the draft so they'll obviously be looking for an offensive minded HC to pair Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison Jr with.

Also, if insiders know this then I'd imagine so does Grubb which means that he could very well get an internal promotion if DeBoer were to leave for the NFL.

As it stands, like us, they need a Portal QB in the off-season. Let's hope we can somehow ruin Penix's Heisman campaign in a rematch.
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Duck07 wrote: As it stands, like us, they need a Portal QB in the off-season. Let's hope we can somehow ruin Penix's Heisman campaign in a rematch.
I wouldn't be surprised if they rolled the dice with Dylan Morris. He's not good, but he's not terrible.
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The UW fans/alums I cited in my post who have concerns about DeBoer leaving don't necessarily think it would be after this year but they think in the longer term he has an eye on the NFL. Who knows for sure. Was just sharing what I was told and one of the people who told me does have good sources on the uw side. Again conjecture at best.

With regard to uw recruiting, it is a real concern among the fan base. The top in state players are looking elsewhere. Will this year and the success they are having change that? Maybe.

After Pennix and those receivers are gone, according to some uw insiders, the cupboards are pretty bare. If DeBoer is good at developing talent then maybe they won't be so bare.

All grist for the mill.
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lmduck wrote:The UW fans/alums I cited in my post who have concerns about DeBoer leaving don't necessarily think it would be after this year but they think in the longer term he has an eye on the NFL. Who knows for sure. Was just sharing what I was told and one of the people who told me does have good sources on the uw side. Again conjecture at best.

With regard to uw recruiting, it is a real concern among the fan base. The top in state players are looking elsewhere. Will this year and the success they are having change that? Maybe.

After Pennix and those receivers are gone, according to some uw insiders, the cupboards are pretty bare. If DeBoer is good at developing talent then maybe they won't be so bare.

All grist for the mill.

If Riley leaves, DeBoer will be Jenna first call. Also lots of talk that Harbaugh is leaving Michigan this year. But for some reason they only hire Michigan guys.
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buckmarkduck wrote:
lmduck wrote:The UW fans/alums I cited in my post who have concerns about DeBoer leaving don't necessarily think it would be after this year but they think in the longer term he has an eye on the NFL. Who knows for sure. Was just sharing what I was told and one of the people who told me does have good sources on the uw side. Again conjecture at best.

With regard to uw recruiting, it is a real concern among the fan base. The top in state players are looking elsewhere. Will this year and the success they are having change that? Maybe.

After Pennix and those receivers are gone, according to some uw insiders, the cupboards are pretty bare. If DeBoer is good at developing talent then maybe they won't be so bare.

All grist for the mill.

If Riley leaves, DeBoer will be Jenna first call. Also lots of talk that Harbaugh is leaving Michigan this year. But for some reason they only hire Michigan guys.
For sure if Riley leaves Jenn will call DeBoer. And yes the Harbaugh leaving Mich rumors are getting stronger. He supposedly has his eye on the Chargers.

It might be time for Michigan to look for others besides those who have ties to Michigan.


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For Justin Herbert's sake, I would love for Harbaugh to leave Michigan for the Chargers! It would also benefit the Ducks...
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OregonDucks wrote:For Justin Herbert's sake, I would love for Harbaugh to leave Michigan for the Chargers! It would also benefit the Ducks...
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And Jim is being investigated again.

https://footballscoop.com/news/ncaa-inv ... m-harbaugh


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The Portal has changed the game in terms of need for top end recruiting classes, but I'm still not convinced you can live strictly through the Portal. DeBoer can really coach and develop, record is phenomenal.

Long term, when Grubb moves on and he's got his own players only, we'll see how he does. Some of the better guys on his team (Odunze, Trice, McMillan, Rosengarten, etc.) were recruited by the old staff. Outside of Penix and Mohammed, their transfers aren't their top talent guys.

In short, it will be a good litmus test for living in the portal vs. recruiting and developing high end talent and taking a few portal guys.
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lmduck wrote:And Jim is being investigated again.

https://footballscoop.com/news/ncaa-inv ... m-harbaugh
Harbaugh is the college version of Bill Belicheat. The dude is such a weirdo also. The way he talks, the way he looks, his mannerisms. If you watch his press conferences, there is something legitimately off-kilter with this guy.
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