Emergency DT options...

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Don't worry everyone... we will at least bring on a couple of pac 10 worth DT and to be truthful they won't be 5 star, however 3 star not bad! shoot look at Isaac remington he is listed at 3 star but I am sure that does not do him justice!

on Eric Dungy remember duck quacks! :lol: we are tapping the florida and Texas pipeline for recruits now and that makes it good for the future...I mean at one time Oregon couldn't even tap that area or locale! Oregon is on its way up!..if Eric works hard he can improve and be used in Oregon's defensive scheme! or even on CK's offense...

Oregon will be fine! ;)
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ksmack wrote:Don't worry everyone... we will at least bring on a couple of pac 10 worth DT and to be truthful they won't be 5 star, however 3 star not bad! shoot look at Isaac remington he is listed at 3 star but I am sure that does not do him justice!

on Eric Dungy remember duck quacks! :lol: we are tapping the florida and Texas pipeline for recruits now and that makes it good for the future...I mean at one time Oregon couldn't even tap that area or locale! Oregon is on its way up!..if Eric works hard he can improve and be used in Oregon's defensive scheme! or even on CK's offense...

Oregon will be fine! ;)
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sx1080 wrote:I say drop the Long snapper, Dungy, and take 4 of those guys and hope two pan out.
That would certainly help recruiting in the future, wouldn't it? I can hear Lane Kiffin now--"you know if you commit to Oregon they may pull the offer on LOI day when you have no other options, don't you?"
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Yeah you guys are probably right about dropping Scales and Dungy etc.


Its just too bad it worked out this way.
I hope Scales and Dungy turn out to be players, but my gut says they aren't Pac 10 material. Maybe more Portland State Vikings material, I think.

We don't even know, however, what the situation is. Maybe they both have conditional offers, or maybe they have greyshirt offers.
I sure hope so.
It would be a real shame to lose out on even a two star DT for the sake of Division II type of players...
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sx1080 wrote:
vagusnerve wrote:I agree.

We've got Clay at long snapper. Dungy plays two positions at which we are absolutely loaded.

Drop Scales, Howell and Dungy, and sign five or six DTs.... maybe one of them well pan out!

Seriously though, i dont know how ethical it is to drop these guys at the last minute, but maybe its a possibility?

not ethical , but you can greyshirt them and if they say no, bye bye.

The LS is a joke. 210 lbs.???

And Dungy was a favor to his DAd. Maybe that will pay off with future years.

Scales was offerred to lure McCain, King, and Allen. Fail.
Thank God stars are the only thing that matters in recruiting :roll:
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What about this guy? Looks like beef in the picture and the stats are solid 3* I know SC was looking at him last week.

http://jcfootball.scout.com/a.z?s=87&p= ... id=4436731
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GoDucks,

I don't think its about stars.

Its about offers and talent.

Scales has no real offers besides Oregon. Why do you think he's still with UO when all his buddies are going to Cal? Cause nobody else is dumb enough to offer him. We misjudged that situation big time, and offered Scales too soon. It should have been a conditional offer (ie allen and king and mccain sign, then you can come).

Plus, Scales just does not have the size to play in the Pac 10. He is about 5.7 and 175 lbs, and he's slow like a DT. Really, he is really small and really slow.

Dungy wasn't recruited by anyone either, and he plays in Florida. Plus, you'd think a famous coaches son would be getting some attention, if nothing else but for his pedigree. He didn't. FSU put a greyshirt offer on the table and then revoked it. He's a Duck because Kelly is the only coach from a legit team that offered him. I've read from people that watched his HS team, he wasn't even a standout.

It does sound like either of these guys are Division I prospects.
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WOW you should be hired by CK to recruit since you seem to know more than he and all the other coaches. :roll:
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Take it FWIW...

smells funny to me.
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vagusnerve wrote:GoDucks,

I don't think its about stars.

Its about offers and talent.

Scales has no real offers besides Oregon. Why do you think he's still with UO when all his buddies are going to Cal? Cause nobody else is dumb enough to offer him. We misjudged that situation big time, and offered Scales too soon. It should have been a conditional offer (ie allen and king and mccain sign, then you can come).

Plus, Scales just does not have the size to play in the Pac 10. He is about 5.7 and 175 lbs, and he's slow like a DT. Really, he is really small and really slow.

Dungy wasn't recruited by anyone either, and he plays in Florida. Plus, you'd think a famous coaches son would be getting some attention, if nothing else but for his pedigree. He didn't. FSU put a greyshirt offer on the table and then revoked it. He's a Duck because Kelly is the only coach from a legit team that offered him. I've read from people that watched his HS team, he wasn't even a standout.

It does sound like either of these guys are Division I prospects.
First off, Dungy was offered by Florida State, Louisville, USF, and Minnesota among others. Definitely not the greatest offer list but not horrible either. James Scales doesn't have the greatest offer list either (Duke, Louisville, Kentucky, Ohio and Oregon), but also not piss poor. Patrick Chung, in comparison, had offers from Oregon and Wyoming. He had Colorado State, Oregon State, UCLA, and USC also listed as schools of interest but showed no offers from them. By your logic, Patrick Chung shouldn't have been worthy of a scholarship offer and should have been cut off then and there. My point is that the coaches know what they're doing. Maybe they offered these guys for the reasons you pointed out and maybe not, who knows. We can't really judge if these guys are or aren't Pac-10 worthy players until a few years later.

Eric Dungy

http://rivals.yahoo.com/oregon/football ... ngy-105752

James Scales

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/r ... ales-68366

Patrick Chung

http://rivals.yahoo.com/oregon/football ... hung-17566
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I hope James Scales reads these boards. In the back of his mind, he'll remember all of these negative comments... and he'll use that to fuel his fire as he makes a name for himself in the Pac-10.

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vagusnerve wrote:GoDucks,

Scales has no real offers besides Oregon. Why do you think he's still with UO when all his buddies are going to Cal? Cause nobody else is dumb enough to offer him. We misjudged that situation big time, and offered Scales too soon. It should have been a conditional offer (ie allen and king and mccain sign, then you can come).


Plus, Scales just does not have the size to play in the Pac 10. He is about 5.7 and 175 lbs, and he's slow like a DT. Really, he is really small and really slow.
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Rivals, Scout, and ESPN have all reported and verified that he is 5-10 not 5-7 and they have him closer to 180 than 175 (doesn't really matter though since he would redshirt)


Here is a very lengthy scouting report with him. According to this report the kid is warranted a scholarship to a Division 1 team.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiti ... eason=2010
"actually may be more naturally ready to make the jump to safety, particularly if he continues to fill out. Scales is a very good under the radar prospects with some intangibles; should be a team's best coverage guy in the kicking game adding to his upside"
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pezsez1 wrote:I hope James Scales reads these boards. In the back of his mind, he'll remember all of these negative comments... and he'll use that to fuel his fire as he makes a name for himself in the Pac-10.

Some of us believe in you, Scales!
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vagusnerve wrote:GoDucks,

I don't think its about stars.

Its about offers and talent.

Scales has no real offers besides Oregon. Why do you think he's still with UO when all his buddies are going to Cal? Cause nobody else is dumb enough to offer him. We misjudged that situation big time, and offered Scales too soon. It should have been a conditional offer (ie allen and king and mccain sign, then you can come).

Plus, Scales just does not have the size to play in the Pac 10. He is about 5.7 and 175 lbs, and he's slow like a DT. Really, he is really small and really slow.

Dungy wasn't recruited by anyone either, and he plays in Florida. Plus, you'd think a famous coaches son would be getting some attention, if nothing else but for his pedigree. He didn't. FSU put a greyshirt offer on the table and then revoked it. He's a Duck because Kelly is the only coach from a legit team that offered him. I've read from people that watched his HS team, he wasn't even a standout.

It does sound like either of these guys are Division I prospects.
Jairus Byrd had no other offers listed on Scout (http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=8&c=1&nid=1173860) and Max Unger only other listed offer was Oregon State (http://oregon.scout.com/a.z?s=128&p=8&c=1&nid=932822). Both are starters in their NFL rookie year but by your logic they didn't deserve a scholarship.

Oh, and wouldn't you think the son of a 2 time NFL pro bowler would get some attention?
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