buckmarkduck wrote:UO recruiting is solid, I'm not sure it needs much improvement. Really the only way I see UO going from finishing from 10-20 ( and once in a while top 10)every year to making the leap to the top 10 on a regular basis is for the state of Oregon to grow to about 10 million people.
10-20 range looks pretty consistent to me. 2009 was down a little, but again, rankings can vary so much. Rivals and scout can be off as much as 10 ranking spots.
[quote="buckmarkduck"]Big difference between OU, AL, SC and LSU recruiting and recruiting to Eugene. NorCal has nothing until you get to Sac which is what 6 hours away? OU is like 3 hours from Dallas and LSU is just 3 hours from Houston, both of those cities are a ton bigger than Portland or Sac. Oregon may border California but it's not the same thing, not even close.
Exactly. Nebraska is the only thing close to our situation, but ours is still harder.
buckmarkduck wrote:Big difference between OU, AL, SC and LSU recruiting and recruiting to Eugene. NorCal has nothing until you get to Sac which is what 6 hours away? OU is like 3 hours from Dallas and LSU is just 3 hours from Houston, both of those cities are a ton bigger than Portland or Sac. Oregon may border California but it's not the same thing, not even close.
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greenyellow wrote:Unless a big infusion of population and talent moves closer to Oregon, I don't think that Oregon can do anything but win and hope that players from across the country want to come out here.
You have a point, but then there's teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, South Carolina, and LSU; Whom like Oregon, reside in states with low populations and limited talent pools, yet each program consistently finishes with highly ranked recruiting classes due to feeding off talent in surrounding states. We border California, the third best "football state" in the country. We need to figure out how to seal it off from poaching programs. Teams like Florida and Oklahoma need to be kept from pulling highly ranked prospects out of California, and instead be pushed to Oregon.
I think stadium expansion, and a string of BCS Bowls can do that, and putting more players in the league can do that. We just need to figure out how to make it happen.
No offense, but what exactly does being in close proximity to major cities have to do with recruiting? Eugene isn't far from Portland nor Seattle, and for what college students can afford, they'd accommodate a weekend trip. I don't really think it's about that though.
However, I will say this, the Oregon brand is growing. We just need to strike while the iron is hot.
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We're getting more TV exposure, but having a Pac10 TV contract will help our exposure and be the tipping point for recruits that love our team, but are swayed by other top teams ability to be seen weekly and nationally.
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I have been pretty happy with the classes we have been putting together. It seems like the coaches are getting the guys that they want. I feel like we are still missing on key DL guys but other than that, I can't find much to complain about.
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I have always felt we need to keep setting the bar higher and higher.. and obviously we have to keep winning. I want us to start landing the 4 and 5 star recruits as much as anybody and want us going after them and persuading them to keep pursuing that goal of being NC. I am happy with the guys we get do not get me wrong.. but.. when look at the last several national championship teams you can not argue the fact they get top level recruits year in and year out. It seems apparent if we want to reach that level.. we have to recruit at that level. Getting there.. in this state..with our small population comparatively speaking.. is probably the hardest thing. Keep winning.. keep showing up in the national media in a positive manner and hopefully recruits will like what they see. Winning the pac 10 and the rose bowl would be a big help too.
buckmarkduck wrote:Big difference between OU, AL, SC and LSU recruiting and recruiting to Eugene. NorCal has nothing until you get to Sac which is what 6 hours away? OU is like 3 hours from Dallas and LSU is just 3 hours from Houston, both of those cities are a ton bigger than Portland or Sac. Oregon may border California but it's not the same thing, not even close.
Bumi wrote:
greenyellow wrote:Unless a big infusion of population and talent moves closer to Oregon, I don't think that Oregon can do anything but win and hope that players from across the country want to come out here.
You have a point, but then there's teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, South Carolina, and LSU; Whom like Oregon, reside in states with low populations and limited talent pools, yet each program consistently finishes with highly ranked recruiting classes due to feeding off talent in surrounding states. We border California, the third best "football state" in the country. We need to figure out how to seal it off from poaching programs. Teams like Florida and Oklahoma need to be kept from pulling highly ranked prospects out of California, and instead be pushed to Oregon.
I think stadium expansion, and a string of BCS Bowls can do that, and putting more players in the league can do that. We just need to figure out how to make it happen.
No offense, but what exactly does being in close proximity to major cities have to do with recruiting? Eugene isn't far from Portland nor Seattle, and for what college students can afford, they'd accommodate a weekend trip. I don't really think it's about that though.
However, I will say this, the Oregon brand is growing. We just need to strike while the iron is hot.
3/4 of the population lives on the east coast..... So obviously there's going to be more talent over there.
Portland and Oregon in general just doesn't produce many D1 caliber recruits. Seattle is OK........ but their is a huge difference from the Northwest and the South when it comes to producing D1 talent.
Because of distance it's a lot more difficult for Oregon to recruit Texas and Florida than it is for Alabama. If they commit to bama they could drive home on the weekends.
We need to continue to become a tradition (not there yet but working on it). Portland is not equal to Most California cities. The powerhouse areas of the country also have the kind of weather that will allow them to play through longer seasons. When I lived in Oregon Youth and prep football wasn't a huge deal.
And just what is wrong with
the recruits were getting?
we won the pac 10 last year went
to the rose bowl and are a top 5 team this
year. we have depth and quality kids here.
they listen and buy into chip's style. you cant
ask for more then that. The players he's getting here
have stepped up in ablility also. Oregon has it all to attract
these kids. but when you factor in the parents and
friends and all the influences your not going to get
them all.
Some schools are able to keep the local kids there like
USC. The florida schools usually keep there kid's at home.
look at texas. they are always a top five team and usually
with all texas kids. but with the limits to scholarships they
cant get them all. there is parity now.
Look at Lache seastrunk. five star running back. red shirting
this year. Unheard of in years past. were deep at positions
we haven't been before, which factors in to. young kids think
they should be able to play right away and go to schools they
feel gives them that chance.
Same with Bennett at QB. He could prolly start at UCLA. But
he chose us. The list goes on at other positions. I'm sure Chip
knows what he's doing. Weve turned the corner. This coming from
someone who lived thru the 70's and 80's of being horrible.
