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Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:31 pm
by Boom
duckgrad99 wrote:It makes no sense to me to take 4 SF's in one class, and 6 total forwards. No point guards or centers in the class for St Johns. I will be shocked if everyone stays and someone like Garrett doesn't eventually get upset if he doesn't get a lot of playing time.
I'm sure some of those guys could play SG.

I know 6-6 SG's are hard for some people to comprehend..... but that's about the average height in the NBA.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:04 pm
by greenyellow
Boom wrote:
duckgrad99 wrote:It makes no sense to me to take 4 SF's in one class, and 6 total forwards. No point guards or centers in the class for St Johns. I will be shocked if everyone stays and someone like Garrett doesn't eventually get upset if he doesn't get a lot of playing time.
I'm sure some of those guys could play SG.

I know 6-6 SG's are hard for some people to comprehend..... but that's about the average height in the NBA.
But to have like 8 players who play SF/SG is a little bit of an overkill. They are going to need some big men and PGs.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:28 pm
by Boom
greenyellow wrote:
Boom wrote:
duckgrad99 wrote:It makes no sense to me to take 4 SF's in one class, and 6 total forwards. No point guards or centers in the class for St Johns. I will be shocked if everyone stays and someone like Garrett doesn't eventually get upset if he doesn't get a lot of playing time.
I'm sure some of those guys could play SG.

I know 6-6 SG's are hard for some people to comprehend..... but that's about the average height in the NBA.
But to have like 8 players who play SF/SG is a little bit of an overkill. They are going to need some big men and PGs.
I think it's pretty smart.....They will have a very versatile lineup. If they can get the right PG in there then they can be a very dangerous team. It looks like they will have 3 schollys to give next year so I think that will be there #1 priority.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:33 pm
by bellsduck
Boom wrote:
duckgrad99 wrote:It makes no sense to me to take 4 SF's in one class, and 6 total forwards. No point guards or centers in the class for St Johns. I will be shocked if everyone stays and someone like Garrett doesn't eventually get upset if he doesn't get a lot of playing time.
I'm sure some of those guys could play SG.

I know 6-6 SG's are hard for some people to comprehend..... but that's about the average height in the NBA.
Yes, but usually the 6-6 SG's have premier ballhandling skills. Granted I haven't seen every clip of these players, but most of what I saw said SF.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:44 pm
by Boom
bellsduck wrote:
Boom wrote:
duckgrad99 wrote:It makes no sense to me to take 4 SF's in one class, and 6 total forwards. No point guards or centers in the class for St Johns. I will be shocked if everyone stays and someone like Garrett doesn't eventually get upset if he doesn't get a lot of playing time.
I'm sure some of those guys could play SG.

I know 6-6 SG's are hard for some people to comprehend..... but that's about the average height in the NBA.
Yes, but usually the 6-6 SG's have premier ballhandling skills. Granted I haven't seen every clip of these players, but most of what I saw said SF.
Ya, who knows how their handle will develop over the next few seasons.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:49 pm
by Boom
btw, I would much rather have a 6-6 elite athlete playing SG than a 6-1 sub par athlete who has better fundamentals.....

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:00 pm
by oregontrack
Boom wrote:btw, I would much rather have a 6-6 elite athlete playing SG than a 6-1 sub par athlete who has better fundamentals.....
Depends on the situation. Big Ern got into trouble doing just this, and he had a team full of athletes but few basketball players.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:16 pm
by Boom
I recall TP & Sims playing SG for Ern...... I was always very critical of this.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:25 pm
by greenyellow
Boom wrote:I recall TP & Sims playing SG for Ern...... I was always very critical of this.
But I wouldn't call them some of the most fundamentally sounds players either.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:30 pm
by Boom
greenyellow wrote:
Boom wrote:I recall TP & Sims playing SG for Ern...... I was always very critical of this.
But I wouldn't call them some of the most fundamentally sounds players either.
I think most thought Sims was....... not very many kids (If any) are fundamentally sound coming out of high school.

Re: Amir Garrett to SJU per twitter

Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 7:03 pm
by oregontrack
Yeah, TP and Sim are terrible examples of fundamentally sound players starting place of an athletically gifted kid who struggles with some of the more basic concepts of basketball. TP is the embodiment of what you should not do as a player, but we were terrible for much of his career here and nobody really cared. Sim falls into the latter category of being athletically gifted but short on fundamentals, and I say that as a Sim supporter. Nobody as quick and agile as Sim should be as bad of a defender as he is, whether he's guarding the 1 or 2.