Robert Bolden Looking to transfer...

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woundedknees wrote:Sounds as if Dad is pulling the strings, here. In the Penn State/David Jones blog link posted above, he makes several pointed comments, using the word "I" a lot...

"I felt McGloin did a good job under the circumstances of him being a third-string guy," said Mr. Bolden. "I felt as though he did very well. I felt he caught some bad breaks -- the same principle that got him in the game to begin with and the same principle that Rob was dealing with.

"But Rob ended up staying out for some struggles he had. It wasn't a two-way street, I guess. We're not happy about that.

"Rob had his ups and downs just the same as anybody would have had. But he was never allowed to rebound from that. He was never, in my eyes, coached through that. He didn't learn a whole lot just sitting on the sideline the rest of the season.

"I think it would've been beneficial to allow him to play more and see how he dealt with the ups and downs he was having. But that didn't happen."

If Dad has his nose that far into the coaches' business, I am not sure Chip would put up with it.

Mr. Bolden said he has spoken to officials from some possible transfer locales but "they're reluctant to talk to him" until his son secures his official transfer. Because Bolden has not taken his redshirt year, he may use it and sit out in the 2011 season, then have three years remaining to play.

"He's not going anywhere in the state of Michigan," was Mr. Bolden's only certainty. "I can guarantee you that. But otherwise, it's up in the air."
To me, it's looks like his dad saw his son wasn't happy at PSU and is looking out for his son's best interest in football. There's really nothing wrong with that. Having the dad speak for his son may be prudent since it keeps his son from having to address the media himself in a time that is very difficult for him and he could make some verbal miscues that could cost him a spot at another school.
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Very interesting development, I wonder if he is really transferring and if we would be interested? I too feel we are set at QB but he is a great talent who would add to our depth I wonder if he is willing to wait his turn?

I say he had his chance to be a Duck but that time is passed...
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greenyellow wrote:
woundedknees wrote:Sounds as if Dad is pulling the strings, here. In the Penn State/David Jones blog link posted above, he makes several pointed comments, using the word "I" a lot...

"I felt McGloin did a good job under the circumstances of him being a third-string guy," said Mr. Bolden. "I felt as though he did very well. I felt he caught some bad breaks -- the same principle that got him in the game to begin with and the same principle that Rob was dealing with.

"But Rob ended up staying out for some struggles he had. It wasn't a two-way street, I guess. We're not happy about that.

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"He's not going anywhere in the state of Michigan," was Mr. Bolden's only certainty. "I can guarantee you that. But otherwise, it's up in the air."
To me, it's looks like his dad saw his son wasn't happy at PSU and is looking out for his son's best interest in football. There's really nothing wrong with that. Having the dad speak for his son may be prudent since it keeps his son from having to address the media himself in a time that is very difficult for him and he could make some verbal miscues that could cost him a spot at another school.
Let his Dad handle everything and he can claim to not know anything if something goes wrong. :twisted:
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I think the only way he transfers to Oregon is if he is open to playing another position besides QB. He's transferring for lack of PT behind a mediocre QB, at Oregon he'd be behind one very good and proven QB (Thomas) and the next star at the same position (Bennett). Obviously we can't forget the potential of Mariota or Randall, but in my opinion Bolden would be ahead of them on the depth chart.

One thing to consider is that Oregon has used multiple QB's every year that Coach Kelly has been with the program. Most years it was by necessity, this year it was a luxury. I think that if Bolden and his Dad took a hard look at the Ducks games this last season they'd see how frequent Nate Costa, and even Daryl Hawkins, were involved in the game plan week to week.

Through it all, unless Bolden really wants to become a Duck I just don't see it happening. I don't foresee the Oregon staff bending over backwards to get him in Eugene if he's reluctant to play another position besides QB.
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I think Bolden wants a place where he can start right away. That ain't happening at Oregon for at least 2 years. Don't see DT going to the NFL until after his senior year.
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woundedknees wrote:Sounds as if Dad is pulling the strings, here. In the Penn State/David Jones blog link posted above, he makes several pointed comments, using the word "I" a lot...

"I felt McGloin did a good job under the circumstances of him being a third-string guy," said Mr. Bolden. "I felt as though he did very well. I felt he caught some bad breaks -- the same principle that got him in the game to begin with and the same principle that Rob was dealing with.

"But Rob ended up staying out for some struggles he had. It wasn't a two-way street, I guess. We're not happy about that.

"Rob had his ups and downs just the same as anybody would have had. But he was never allowed to rebound from that. He was never, in my eyes, coached through that. He didn't learn a whole lot just sitting on the sideline the rest of the season.

"I think it would've been beneficial to allow him to play more and see how he dealt with the ups and downs he was having. But that didn't happen."

If Dad has his nose that far into the coaches' business, I am not sure Chip would put up with it.

Mr. Bolden said he has spoken to officials from some possible transfer locales but "they're reluctant to talk to him" until his son secures his official transfer. Because Bolden has not taken his redshirt year, he may use it and sit out in the 2011 season, then have three years remaining to play.

"He's not going anywhere in the state of Michigan," was Mr. Bolden's only certainty. "I can guarantee you that. But otherwise, it's up in the air."

think of the incredible team chemistry this year...think of the talented players that have left the program but were more about I than team....then there are the results on the field...

so do we really need a player and dad to derail that kind of chemistry...i can see the player buying in but getting the dad happy shouldnt be chips job...

based on our history with injuries and qbs i wouldnt mind another talented qb on the roster assumming it doesnt turn into drama
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I doubt there's any chance Bolden transfers to Oregon, but I think Joe Pa's decision to deny his transfer is interesting..

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5987457
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Why couldn't he quit the PSU football team, decide he wanted to transfer colleges (since he is now simply a member of the PSU student body), transfer to the program of his choice, "walk-on" to the football team there (and then be granted a scholarship), and then sit out the mandated year, in order to circumvent the unfair ability of coaches to deny direct transfers?
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Handsome Dan wrote:Why couldn't he quit the PSU football team, decide he wanted to transfer colleges (since he is now simply a member of the PSU student body), transfer to the program of his choice, "walk-on" to the football team there (and then be granted a scholarship), and then sit out the mandated year, in order to circumvent the unfair ability of coaches to deny direct transfers?
I believe to do that he would have to transfer down to FBS or D2
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Handsome Dan wrote:Why couldn't he quit the PSU football team, decide he wanted to transfer colleges (since he is now simply a member of the PSU student body), transfer to the program of his choice, "walk-on" to the football team there (and then be granted a scholarship), and then sit out the mandated year, in order to circumvent the unfair ability of coaches to deny direct transfers?
The PSU decision makes it so he cant get a scholarship next year (barring a FCS transfer) . The NCAA rule requires him to sit out a year whether he is on scholarship or not.

PSU's decision actually makes it more likely for Bolden to transfer in Conference than if PSU granted him a conditional release, (go anywhere but Big-12 or someone on our schedule).

Boneheaded move by Joe. It can be used against them in recruiting, plus makes it more likely he'll transfer to a team PSU would prefer him not to go to. No Pros only Cons to his decision, well the longshot Pro would be if this made him decide not to transfer but I doubt that happens now.
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That makes no sense though. He quits the football team in April, thus becoming a Penn State student, not a Penn State student-athlete attempting to transfer programs. He then decides that he dislikes the academics at Penn State and decides those at, say, Vanderbilt, are much more to his liking, so he transfers, as a student, to Vanderbilt. He then decides that he wants to walk on to Vanderbilt's football team, and does so by participating in summer workouts and the fall camp, before "earning" his scholarship at the end of it like a regular walk on. Because he was involved in another D-IA program the previous year, he redshirts the 2011 season, and then plays in 2012. Joe Paterno can't prevent him from quitting the team, so I don't see how this fails.

The point being, its ridiculous a coach can prevent players from leaving his program.
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Handsome Dan wrote:That makes no sense though. He quits the football team in April, thus becoming a Penn State student, not a Penn State student-athlete attempting to transfer programs. He then decides that he dislikes the academics at Penn State and decides those at, say, Vanderbilt, are much more to his liking, so he transfers, as a student, to Vanderbilt. He then decides that he wants to walk on to Vanderbilt's football team, and does so by participating in summer workouts and the fall camp, before "earning" his scholarship at the end of it like a regular walk on. Because he was involved in another D-IA program the previous year, he redshirts the 2011 season, and then plays in 2012. Joe Paterno can't prevent him from quitting the team, so I don't see how this fails.

The point being, its ridiculous a coach can prevent players from leaving his program.

Your scenario is accurate. PSU cant stop him from transferring, but it means he has to go a year not on scholarship. Since paying full-bore for a D1 school is hugely expensive, most players denied scholarship release go to a JuCo for a year, then go to their desired school on full scholarship. If PSU granted the release, he would still redshirt at his desired school but he would be on scholarship while doing it.
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If Bolden is transferring for depth chart & playing time reasons...... then this isn't the place for him.

2 more years of DT and then an intense QB battle between Bryan Bennett, Mariota, & Randall.

I know we're always concerned about QB injuries, but you would think 4 QB's is enough.....we would have 5 if you include Hawkins.
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Boom wrote:If Bolden is transferring for depth chart & playing time reasons...... then this isn't the place for him.

2 more years of DT and then an intense QB battle between Bryan Bennett, Mariota, & Randall.

I know we're always concerned about QB injuries, but you would think 4 QB's is enough.....we would have 5 if you include Hawkins.
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