Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

[UOducksTK1]

Ya fair

Oregon and Washington rumored to have offers to join Big 10, roughly in the 35-40 mil range.

If that’s true, you figure Oregon will have to accept .

35-40 and full share is 65, is that correct?

Not much leverage. Though, undefeated through the regular season every year in a weak conference or independent still isn't unfathomable. The "Clemson" route. Just have to negotiate a deal where most of the spoils goes to the victor.

Right. Not great deal relative to the Big 10 teams, but a great deal relative to our other options (Big 12, PAC-8, etc).

[greenyellow]

Larry Scott sure was wrong.

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[bellsduck]

I don't know if he was wrong. Things have moved faster than anticipated in some regards. The long term contract is what hurts with being able to be mobile obviously. The Pac unfortunately had bad timing among other things.

[pezsez1]

Assuming both AZ schools are gone, I could see the Pac limping along if Utah stayed put with a conference that looks something like this:

Oregon
Washington
Utah
Oregon State
Stanford
Cal
Washington State
San Diego State
Boise State
Fresno State

Not a terrible lineup, probably an overall competitive improvement over losing CO, ASU and AZ, but not so competitive that it diminishes the main benefit of staying -- which is a significantly easier road to the playoff each year.

That said, I just don't see the endgame here. Uncle Phil isn't immortal and a plan like this only works until the powerbrokers change the playoff rules. Oregon would be so much stronger in a respected conference where it could still make the playoff despite one or two losses per year -- and with the financials set for football eternity.

I really thought the Pac would have a good deal, and I thought Apple/ESPN would have wanted that to happen enough to give us an offer that could keep us viable. Clearly, none of that happened, It sucks that not everyone can get through this and land in a P5 conference... but this really is the Trolley problem. If you're Oregon, do you stay the course (do nothing) and see half of the conference be relegated to Mountain West status? Or do you activate the switch and probably only end up wiping out a couple teams in the long run? Doing nothing may seem like the fair thing to do, but flipping the switch is the right thing to do.

[dd10snoop28]

Never really made sense to keep together such a weak conference without USC/UCLA, and especially now without AZ/ASU.

We lost the most prestigious football team in the conference and the top 2 most prestigious basketball teams. As Vince Carter would say, it's ovah.

[greenyellow]

Interesting things going on up in Washington as the BOR for UW keep extending the private executive session. It was initially supposed to end at 9:35 PM, but it's been extended multiple times to 10 PM, 10:15 PM, 10:25 PM, and now, 10:35 PM.

Edit: UW's meeting is finally over after 90+ minutes but nothing was said publicly afterward as it just ended immediately.

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[pezsez1]

Has Oregon called a meeting yet to go over anything about this? I haven't heard of one, and I find that odd.

[greenyellow]

Has Oregon called a meeting yet to go over anything about this? I haven't heard of one, and I find that odd.

Nope. The only meeting they've had is to talk finish Lanning and the new president's contracts last week.

[Phalanx]

I suspect that whatever meetings Oregon needed to have about this happened months ago, and they were just waiting for the dominoes to start falling. The contract revelation and subsequent corner school defections make great cover for what feels very orchestrated to me. First, info leaks from multiple sources that it's already a done deal. Then, the next few days are a steady stream of progressive 'revelations' and 'scoops' from various legacy media outlets, all more or less reflecting things we already knew and acting like it just happened. So why the dance? One article suggested the faster Oregon moves, the less likely the legislature is to intervene on Oregon State's behalf and force Oregon to stay. By the time they act, it will be a fait accompli. So that could be it. Or maybe they just wanted to be ready to seal the deal before everyone changes their mind.

On another note, I saw a suggestion for the new conference having an eastern and western division. If they added Cal and Stanford to get to 20 teams, the eastern division could be called the 'Big 10' and the western division could be called the 'Pac 10' and the champions could play each other every year around New Year's day, maybe down in L.A. somewhere. I don't know where they come up with these crazy ideas, but it just might work if they can find a good venue.

[pezsez1]

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/stat ... 5098189824

At last minute, Pac-12 may stay together & sign Grant of Rights. After Monday’s media rights offer, P12 held multiple zoom meetings this week. Arizona’s Bobby Robbins appeared fully committed to Pac-12 so much that one participant said: “If Arizona leaves, he should win an Oscar"

If true, this would be a shocking development.

Heard on 1080 that Pac-12 officials should be meeting within the hour.

[dthomas=ddixon]

Seems like a media counter-attack from the pro-PAC side of things. We’ll see but I find it very hard to believe the conference is suddenly able to offer anything compelling.

But maybe the B1G is low-balling so significantly that staying is actually better. What a wild ride ha.

[UOducksTK1]

We should rename the PAC-12 to the Mountain West+ Conference.

[UOducksTK1]

Arizona needs to be brave and make the move to the Big12…

[OregonFan4Life]

Now suddenly overnight it appears that Oregon is not joining the B1G, who knows what’s true at this point.

Looks like Oregon doesn’t believe they’re getting enough money to cover the increased travel costs. Not sure if this is a really good move by Oregon or a really dumb move….

[pezsez1]

Seems like a media counter-attack from the pro-PAC side of things.

If anything, Brett McMurphy has pretty much ran wild with Big-12 rumors throughout most of this process. If he's suddenly backtracking then things really might have changed.