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Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment
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That video was a little hard for me to watch. Part of an Oregon fan's identity is to be outside of the club, less favored by media, and having to earn every bowl or playoff berth. Now, to be joining this conference full of teams that think the world revolves around them - it's going to take some getting used to.
On the other hand, looking at that map they had behind them really brought to my mind how mad USC must be right now. They really thought they had got one over on the Pac, and particularly Oregon. First, they lobbied for divisions in the Pac 12 where they would only have to play the Ducks once every few years, and then when that didn't keep the fox out of the Mater Dei henhouse, they brokered a deal to leave the conference completely, making sure them and UCLA would be the only two western schools in the new superconference. Their fans were exultant, talking smack for a year about how they were leaving all the small-time schools like Oregon behind. Now all of a sudden, here is Oregon again. Not only are the Ducks going to be in the same conference again, and joining at the same time, but all anyone can talk about is 'travel partners' and 'the western teams'. Oregon is USC's new roommate, probably playing every year, being lumped together in media reporting, etc. I know they comfort themselves that they are full partners getting more money, but it really has to stick in their craw how this is working out, despite overt efforts to engineer an opposite outcome. It would be funny if Dakoda Fields flipped just to rub salt in the wound. If we thought it was a rivalry with USC before, just wait. It could get ugly.
On the other hand, looking at that map they had behind them really brought to my mind how mad USC must be right now. They really thought they had got one over on the Pac, and particularly Oregon. First, they lobbied for divisions in the Pac 12 where they would only have to play the Ducks once every few years, and then when that didn't keep the fox out of the Mater Dei henhouse, they brokered a deal to leave the conference completely, making sure them and UCLA would be the only two western schools in the new superconference. Their fans were exultant, talking smack for a year about how they were leaving all the small-time schools like Oregon behind. Now all of a sudden, here is Oregon again. Not only are the Ducks going to be in the same conference again, and joining at the same time, but all anyone can talk about is 'travel partners' and 'the western teams'. Oregon is USC's new roommate, probably playing every year, being lumped together in media reporting, etc. I know they comfort themselves that they are full partners getting more money, but it really has to stick in their craw how this is working out, despite overt efforts to engineer an opposite outcome. It would be funny if Dakoda Fields flipped just to rub salt in the wound. If we thought it was a rivalry with USC before, just wait. It could get ugly.
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F-U$CPhalanx wrote:That video was a little hard for me to watch. Part of an Oregon fan's identity is to be outside of the club, less favored by media, and having to earn every bowl or playoff berth. Now, to be joining this conference full of teams that think the world revolves around them - it's going to take some getting used to.
On the other hand, looking at that map they had behind them really brought to my mind how mad USC must be right now. They really thought they had got one over on the Pac, and particularly Oregon. First, they lobbied for divisions in the Pac 12 where they would only have to play the Ducks once every few years, and then when that didn't keep the fox out of the Mater Dei henhouse, they brokered a deal to leave the conference completely, making sure them and UCLA would be the only two western schools in the new superconference. Their fans were exultant, talking smack for a year about how they were leaving all the small-time schools like Oregon behind. Now all of a sudden, here is Oregon again. Not only are the Ducks going to be in the same conference again, and joining at the same time, but all anyone can talk about is 'travel partners' and 'the western teams'. Oregon is USC's new roommate, probably playing every year, being lumped together in media reporting, etc. I know they comfort themselves that they are full partners getting more money, but it really has to stick in their craw how this is working out, despite overt efforts to engineer an opposite outcome. It would be funny if Dakoda Fields flipped just to rub salt in the wound. If we thought it was a rivalry with USC before, just wait. It could get ugly.
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This may have been posted in the last flurry of pages but…..
It’s official Utes to Big 12, what’s going on with ASU? Official yet?
https://utahutes.com/news/2023/8/4/gene ... 24-25.aspx
It’s official Utes to Big 12, what’s going on with ASU? Official yet?
https://utahutes.com/news/2023/8/4/gene ... 24-25.aspx
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Incredibly privileged takes on the situation. It’s the work and earnings of these other entities that even allows for the UofO to have softball, never mind the immense benefits the softball athletes receive.greenyellow wrote:Doesn't look like everyone within the athletic department are happy. Wouldn't be surprised to see some athletes transfer.
It’s their disingenuous use of “mental health” that makes their complaints so driveling though. Your privileged life becoming slightly more difficult isn’t a mental health issue, and it’s an insult to people who have real mental health issues and whose lives are actually difficult.

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It's also disingenuous to quote a person for using "mental health" when in the quote they don't say "mental health."dthomas=ddixon wrote:Incredibly privileged takes on the situation. It’s the work and earnings of these other entities that even allows for the UofO to have softball, never mind the immense benefits the softball athletes receive.greenyellow wrote:Doesn't look like everyone within the athletic department are happy. Wouldn't be surprised to see some athletes transfer.
It’s their disingenuous use of “mental health” that makes their complaints so driveling though. Your privileged life becoming slightly more difficult isn’t a mental health issue, and it’s an insult to people who have real mental health issues and whose lives are actually difficult.
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I don’t like to pick on kids but I can agree 100% with your statement on the use of mental health inflicted by student athletes just because life just threw them a curve ball. Life does not get any easier cupcake!It’s their disingenuous use of “mental health” that makes their complaints so driveling though. Your privileged life becoming slightly more difficult isn’t a mental health issue, and it’s an insult to people who have real mental health issues and whose lives are actually difficult.
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I think he was talking about entitled kids in generalStevensTechU wrote:It's also disingenuous to quote a person for using "mental health" when in the quote they don't say "mental health."dthomas=ddixon wrote:Incredibly privileged takes on the situation. It’s the work and earnings of these other entities that even allows for the UofO to have softball, never mind the immense benefits the softball athletes receive.greenyellow wrote:Doesn't look like everyone within the athletic department are happy. Wouldn't be surprised to see some athletes transfer.
It’s their disingenuous use of “mental health” that makes their complaints so driveling though. Your privileged life becoming slightly more difficult isn’t a mental health issue, and it’s an insult to people who have real mental health issues and whose lives are actually difficult.
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Quoting an individual and attributing general feelings on them is also incredibly disingenuous.Alan wrote:[
I think he was talking about entitled kids in general
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Okay, I see now it is official the PAC 4 is how it is. Is there any chance of a rebuild by the PAC? A lot of the teams they were interested in require a $32 million buyout, times that by 4 or 6? Is it possible?
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I’m referring to the tweets of the other softball players, who explicitly made this a mental health issue.StevensTechU wrote:It's also disingenuous to quote a person for using "mental health" when in the quote they don't say "mental health."dthomas=ddixon wrote:Incredibly privileged takes on the situation. It’s the work and earnings of these other entities that even allows for the UofO to have softball, never mind the immense benefits the softball athletes receive.greenyellow wrote:Doesn't look like everyone within the athletic department are happy. Wouldn't be surprised to see some athletes transfer.
It’s their disingenuous use of “mental health” that makes their complaints so driveling though. Your privileged life becoming slightly more difficult isn’t a mental health issue, and it’s an insult to people who have real mental health issues and whose lives are actually difficult.

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STU, I always appreciate your take on things. There’s a level-headed consistency about your posts that I find refreshing when others are lobbing rage grenades.StevensTechU wrote:Quoting an individual and attributing general feelings on them is also incredibly disingenuous.Alan wrote:[
I think he was talking about entitled kids in general
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Okay, rather than talking about lobbing “rage” gernades and I see no rage, or picking on student athletes who have a platform but are not mature enough to handle the consequences of their words can we get back to realignment? Can the PAC 4 rebuild with $32 million buyouts in front of schools?
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Anyone else super excited to see our 2024 schedule?
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