Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

[pdxduck2013]

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Might be a dumb question but why was the 5 million sub level unrealistic? Pac12 networks now is estimated to have around 14 million subs. USC/UCLA fans dont make up half that, and even if they did, the conference would still hit the figure. Tbh, that wasn't too bad of a deal but what do i know. I don't see why they would have issues hitting the 1.7 million subs. Those benchmarks feel too low.

Of course, there was still a long list of issues with the pac even if the deal were signed. In addition, perhaps the conference would be on the hook for production costs and that would eat into revenues

Is that Pac 12 network subscription number people paying for it by itself or does it include people like me who get it along with many other channels as part of their cable package? As an example, I watch the network because it's included in my cable package but wouldn't sign up for AppleTV to watch games.

[Duck07]

Last number I saw was Apple was at 40M subscribers which is 1/6 of Netflix and 1/5 of Amazon.

Without Apple getting the network on cable and satellite to work as the P12 Network is now, likely meant a difficult time surpassing 2M new subscribers to say nothing of NOT being on TV when everyone else is.

Ultimately I think for us it was more about the exposure than the money for us specifically.

[pezsez1]

That's definitely a better offer than was reported initially by the Internet and I can see why a Pac-12 president had said getting within the Big-12 numbers would be a layup. That's actually an accurate statement. (That said, I really don't think the Pac-12 presidents gave two ****s about people being hysterical on the internet.)

But it was clearly about more than that. Exposure was still unpredictable, as would eventual solid revenue numbers, impacts on recruiting, etc., not to mention that B12-tier money still won't compete in the long run with B1G/SEC money.

Also, Colorado massively destabilized the conference by bolting and at that point it was clear that several conference members WANTED to jump, even if they didn't want to jump first.

[StevensTechU]

That's definitely a better offer than was reported initially by the Internet and I can see why a Pac-12 president had said getting within the Big-12 numbers would be a layup. That's actually an accurate statement. (That said, I really don't think the Pac-12 presidents gave two ****s about people being hysterical on the internet.)

But it was clearly about more than that. Exposure was still unpredictable, as would eventual solid revenue numbers, impacts on recruiting, etc., not to mention that B12-tier money still won't compete in the long run with B1G/SEC money.

Also, Colorado massively destabilized the conference by bolting and at that point it was clear that several conference members WANTED to jump, even if they didn't want to jump first.

Colorado is a glorified Oregon State with less recent success and took the option of stability. Big XII gets the Denver metro area and a growing state but gains absolute dead weight in sports.

[lmduck]

That's definitely a better offer than was reported initially by the Internet and I can see why a Pac-12 president had said getting within the Big-12 numbers would be a layup. That's actually an accurate statement. (That said, I really don't think the Pac-12 presidents gave two ****s about people being hysterical on the internet.)

But it was clearly about more than that. Exposure was still unpredictable, as would eventual solid revenue numbers, impacts on recruiting, etc., not to mention that B12-tier money still won't compete in the long run with B1G/SEC money.

Also, Colorado massively destabilized the conference by bolting and at that point it was clear that several conference members WANTED to jump, even if they didn't want to jump first.

Colorado is a glorified Oregon State with less recent success and took the option of stability. Big XII gets the Denver metro area and a growing state but gains absolute dead weight in sports.

And now only more glorified than OS because of Deion.


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[Alan]

I only heard this on one sports show, radio, so not sure how true it is. Part of some teams hesitation with the Apple deal was Apple had given a couple of signed athletes percentage of subscribers payouts as part of their contract. Again only heard it once and it was right before the Ducks Big 10 jump……

[Duck07]

I only heard this on one sports show, radio, so not sure how true it is. Part of some teams hesitation with the Apple deal was Apple had given a couple of signed athletes percentage of subscribers payouts as part of their contract. Again only heard it once and it was right before the Ducks Big 10 jump……

Messi isnt the issue, like at all.

[nogerO]

So looking at a map of the BIG, it makes sense to divide into two divisions along geographical lines.

East Division
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn St., Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio State, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois

West Division
Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Washington, Oregon, U$C and UCLA

Just a guess.

[Duck07]

So looking at a map of the BIG, it makes sense to divide into two divisions along geographical lines.

East Division
Rutgers, Maryland, Penn St., Michigan, Michigan St, Ohio State, Purdue, Indiana and Illinois

West Division
Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Nebraska, Washington, Oregon, U$C and UCLA

Just a guess.

ive had the thought that divisions may only benefit the western four

[buckmarkduck]

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[Quietduck]

did we miss getting hit by a bus or did UCLA miss the bus

[greenyellow]

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Seems Moore has heard the rumors and trying to dispel them.

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[greenyellow]

Big 12 may be targeting SDSU and OSU at discounted rates.

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[greenyellow]

Herbert's take on the move to the Big Ten.

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[Alan]

Big 12 may be targeting SDSU and OSU at discounted rates.

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That would be nice for the Beavs! I hope it works out