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Tray Dub wrote:

Duck07 wrote:

Tray Dub wrote:Lebron blew up for a while in the 4th but he was melting down at the end. He is the most incredible athlete basketball has ever seen but I am convinced he just does not have the kind of players next to him that the all-time greats generally have. He will always be more talented than just about anyone ever, but there's also just something missing.

If there is one thing to remember, its that Bosh ain't no "big 3" and if Wade doesn't play as the 2nd best player, than its Lebron in Cleveland all over again. Pippen > Wade otherwise MJ doesn't win 6. Kobe always had a big time player in the post when he won his 5. Very rarely do we see teams win it all with 1 star player without having guys next to them that can help carry the load for stretches.

I don't buy this at all. Lebron's supporting cast is plenty adequate - Bosh is very good (not great, but neither was Rodman or whomever else), Wade can be a star, Chalmers is really good for a team's 4th best player, and everyone would like a Shane Battier on their team. The problem is that Lebron's not the type of player a team can be centered around. He's so talented that teams are centered around him, but no matter what the team's gonna look off because Lebron is just not the same as the all-time greats. The fact that people are making excuses for Lebron by blaming his supporting cast is lunacy. Doesn't anyone remember The Decision and everyone complaining bitterly that he had totally stacked the deck by joining an already-great team with two all-stars? It's the same team!

I really do think we're watching a historically unique player. He is the best athlete I have ever seen. He does not have the mentality someone in his position needs. He gets uncertain of himself and collapses time and time again, like at the end of the 4th last night. If you watched his body language you could see he was scared. I literally thought he might cry at one point.

Lebron is one of the most interesting athletes ever; I think that may be why the dominant narratives about him are mostly off (in my opinion). He's phenomenal, but he's not... something. I don't know the word. But he's not that. And that's what explains the combination of dominance and weakness that we see in him.

By the way, I like Lebron. He seems like a nice guy. I think he had the spotlight shown on him way early and I think something happened to his self-image and self-confidence. That's not his fault and I kinda feel for him. (Of course, a sports fan trying to explain a player's psyche is always a dubious proposition, but that's my intuition about him.)

Duck24 wrote:So much for LeBron not having "it" when it comes to late game shots.

oregontrack wrote:alright kids, let's argue like men on the internet.

i say last night's game 7 had two members of the All Time NBA Team on it:

magic
jordan
lebron
duncan
wilt

i will accept bird over lebron for those who have not yet realized the truth, and i will accept your favorite center of choice over wilt insomuch that he is either russell, kareem, or shaq. any other substitutions and we'll have words.

what say you?