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oregontrack wrote:dude, lopez's DRtg is 108 in what is almost universally considered the best season of his career. asik's DRtg this year -- in what is universally considered a waste, given his mopping/inconsistent minutes/playing behind howard -- is 103.
It was actually not 99, it was 103. So no I wouldn't call those "wide, wide separation marks". Here is a comparison of Asik + Lopez' defense rating compared to the respective teams. Not a big differential at all:last year, when he was the show down low in houston, it was 99. it's not even in the same ballpark. his WS is not going change much from last year's 4.1 -- asik's was 8.2. these are wide, wide separation marks.
Nice how you choose to show Asik's DRB% because that's where he excels, while you fail to recognize that Robin Lopez is currently #3 in the ENTIRE league in ORPG% at 14.0%. While I think that Asik is the better rebounder, I would argue that there is not as big of a separation as you think.and that's really not even taking into account asik being #1 in the nba in rebounding last year. that's numero uno. lopez, right now, is 21st. which isn't bad, and i wouldn't knock him for it, but it is again -- continuing the theme -- not in asik's stratosphere. lopez's DRB% in -- again, his career year -- is 15.6%. asik was @ 28.6% last year.
Field Goal % is a terrible reason for why Asik is the better offensive player. Tyson Chandler is one of the all-time leaders in FG%. Does that make him better than Shaq (who has a lower career FG%)? Nooo. If you actually watched Houston's games last year, you would know that almost all of Asik's buckets came off drives and dishes which resulted in easy dunks for him. The big difference between the Blazers and the Rockets is that we don't have players that penetrate like Houston does. Harden, Lin, and Parsons get to the rim at a frequent rate and set up Asik for a bunch of easy dunks. Who does that for Portland? Nobody. So really the FG% differential means absolutely nothing. And you even noted that Portland "runs more stuff for Lopez than Houston for Asik" and yet Asik averages 1.0 more turnovers than Lopez. That should be a sign to you of his terrible hands. As I said before, Asik is inept with the ball in his hands. He struggles with anything other than point-blank dunks.i said asik was a little better than lopez offensively, but i'm willing to call that a wash. asik shoot's the higher % and crashes the boards on another level to create easier buckets, but portland runs more stuff for lopez than houston did for asik. i would rather have what asik would bring to pdx, but i'm not going to berate the point because if you simply meant robin is more gifted athletically/making something happen offensively i would not disagree. a matter of preference.
I don't disagree that Asik is the better player (slightly), but the separation is not nearly enough for me to want to add my starting SG in a deal. I keep thinking that Asik is really young and still developing, but ROLO is actually 2 years younger. I'm content with Lopez at this point. An Asik/Lopez tradeoff wouldn't make a huge difference for the blazers this year.as a rocket fan, i'm surprised you were so against the proposed move simply because last year's rockets and this year's blazers are not wholly disimilar. both teams were weak on the defensive perimeter, the biggest difference being asik was able to clean up a lot more of houston's mess than lopez can do for portland. the occasional block -- while neat -- doesn't cut it. here's an excellent take written after last season on asik being one of the nba's best defensive centers. as a rocket fan, i would have assumed you had seen this?