^^^ COUNT ME IN.DuckzRule wrote:Well can't wait for bigger programs to bully the ever living **** out of Oregon State in one-off meetings.Alan wrote:I wonder where that will leave the Beavers and Cougars? Mountain west? Yes I careDuckzRule wrote:This has nothing to do with us, but apparently Utah, Colorado and the two Arizona schools are gonna have a meeting with the Big 12 tomorrow, which may mean we won't go with them to that horrid conference.Also, if we join the Big 10, the home and homes against Michigan State and Ohio State will be cancelled, in the later's case, hopefully it's replaced with an Alabama series, they will be cancelling an Oklahoma series in the same dates the Oregon vs. Ohio State series was gonna be played (2032 and 2033)
Sorry for that message but I absolutely hate the Beavers' fandom.
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Good info, it does not look good for the PAC 12Duck07 wrote:Forbes 2019 - CFB Most Valuable programs https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith ... 03a802a2e7
#14 Oregon
3 year avg Revenue - 96 Million
3 year avg Profit - 56 Million
#18 USC
3 year avg Revenue - 93 Million
3 year avg Profit - 52 Million
#19 UW
3 year avg Revenue - 92 Million
3 year avg Profit - 43 Million
Oregon would trail #3 Michigan, #5 Ohio State and #13 Penn State and rank 4th in the new B1G.
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In case you mean the Beavs thing, YEAH!nogerO wrote:^^^ COUNT ME IN.DuckzRule wrote:Well can't wait for bigger programs to bully the ever living **** out of Oregon State in one-off meetings.Alan wrote:I wonder where that will leave the Beavers and Cougars? Mountain west? Yes I careDuckzRule wrote:This has nothing to do with us, but apparently Utah, Colorado and the two Arizona schools are gonna have a meeting with the Big 12 tomorrow, which may mean we won't go with them to that horrid conference.Also, if we join the Big 10, the home and homes against Michigan State and Ohio State will be cancelled, in the later's case, hopefully it's replaced with an Alabama series, they will be cancelling an Oklahoma series in the same dates the Oregon vs. Ohio State series was gonna be played (2032 and 2033)
Sorry for that message but I absolutely hate the Beavers' fandom.
Anyways, any new updates from experts out there?
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Kinda makes you wonder what the hell they were thinking bringing in that tennis dandy boy who had zero experience running a football conference into the ground. Worked well apparently... we shall see...Alan wrote:Thanks makes sense, I hate to see the down grade for the Beavs and cougs, thank you Larry Scott!Duck07 wrote:UW - B1GAlan wrote:
I wonder where that will leave the Beavers and Cougars? Mountain west? Yes I care
WSU - Mountain West
Oregon - B1G
OSU - Mountain West
Cal - Mountain West
Stanford - B1G
Arizona - Big 12
Arizona State - Big 12
Utah - Big 12
Colorado - Big 12
It's possible a version of a New Pac comes out of this that merges with the Big 12 and possibly absorbs on a SD State/Fresno State/Boise State but the TV$ is going to pale in comparison to not even suggest its part of the big group. OSU and WSU are going to get screwed unless Oregon tries to save the Conference and that doesn't appear to be happening at all.
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Oregon State's President in her initial reaction responded about Tier 1 Research Institutions and it was just so telling of why we got to this spot.nogerO wrote: Kinda makes you wonder what the hell they were thinking bringing in that tennis dandy boy who had zero experience running a football conference into the ground. Worked well apparently... we shall see...
While the failure of Tom Hansen followed by Larry Scott is the primary cause, the various University President's and BOT are also responsible for this. Stanford has told the B1G that they'll take a reduction in $ just to get in because even that reduced amount is larger than whatever is coming for the "New Pac" or new Big 12 members.
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DuckzRule wrote:Also new bad rumors, there's apparently some people are claiming UO and UW will get to the Big 12.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO!
The Big 12 is a crappy conference and the fact we would have to deal with bad teams like Kansas will be horrible
Actually, although it wouldn't be my first choice, the Big-12 is more than just Texas and Oklahoma. Oklahoma State, TCU, BYU, Baylor, Iowa State, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Kansas State, etc wouldn't be a bad conference with the addition of Oregon and UW. There are some powerful teams there that are only going to get better now that they're in a Power-5 conference.
If I'm not mistaken, Okie State, Baylor, Cincinnati and Houston all won at least 10 games last year, and Cincy was in the CFP.
I think that if we're not invited to the Big-10 either this would be the next best option, or if we could get Okie State, BYU, TCU and Baylor to join the Pac-12 would be great, too.
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Not bad? Over half those teams were non power 5 at some point over the last decade. No thanks.SuperDuck wrote:DuckzRule wrote:Also new bad rumors, there's apparently some people are claiming UO and UW will get to the Big 12.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO!
The Big 12 is a crappy conference and the fact we would have to deal with bad teams like Kansas will be horrible
Actually, although it wouldn't be my first choice, the Big-12 is more that just Texas and Oklahoma. Oklahoma State, TCU, BYU, Baylor, Iowa State, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Kansas State, etc wouldn't be a bad conference with the addition of Oregon and UW. There are some powerful teams there that are only going to get better now that they're in a Power-5 conference.
If I'm not mistaken, Okie State, Baylor, Cincinnati and Houston all won at least 10 games last year, and Cincy was in the CFP.
I think that if we're not invited to the Big-10 either this would be the next best option, or if
we could get Okie State, BYU, TCU and Baylor to join the Pac-12 would be great, too.
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I sincerely apologize, I was just tired of seeing Oregon play against a lot of Big 12 teamsSuperDuck wrote:DuckzRule wrote:Also new bad rumors, there's apparently some people are claiming UO and UW will get to the Big 12.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, NO!
The Big 12 is a crappy conference and the fact we would have to deal with bad teams like Kansas will be horrible
Actually, although it wouldn't be my first choice, the Big-12 is more than just Texas and Oklahoma. Oklahoma State, TCU, BYU, Baylor, Iowa State, Cincinnati, Houston, UCF, Kansas State, etc wouldn't be a bad conference with the addition of Oregon and UW. There are some powerful teams there that are only going to get better now that they're in a Power-5 conference.
If I'm not mistaken, Okie State, Baylor, Cincinnati and Houston all won at least 10 games last year, and Cincy was in the CFP.
I think that if we're not invited to the Big-10 either this would be the next best option, or if we could get Okie State, BYU, TCU and Baylor to join the Pac-12 would be great, too.
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Exactly! The fact is Pac-12 University presidents spent years with an elitist attitude which deluded them to reality, that today people care more about sports, especially football, than academics. Not saying one is right and the other isn’t, but it is just what it is. The Pac could’ve added Oklahoma, Okie St, Texas Tech, and TCU but multiple presidents refused to have religious universities and “academically inferior” universities, leaving the PAC-12 to eventually die behind Larry Scott’s incompetent leadership and the lame Pac-12 network. I do wish Kliavkoff could’ve had a year to try and fix things but I understand why movement is happening now.Duck07 wrote:Oregon State's President in her initial reaction responded about Tier 1 Research Institutions and it was just so telling of why we got to this spot.nogerO wrote: Kinda makes you wonder what the hell they were thinking bringing in that tennis dandy boy who had zero experience running a football conference into the ground. Worked well apparently... we shall see...
While the failure of Tom Hansen followed by Larry Scott is the primary cause, the various University President's and BOT are also responsible for this. Stanford has told the B1G that they'll take a reduction in $ just to get in because even that reduced amount is larger than whatever is coming for the "New Pac" or new Big 12 members.
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Some people are wanting the B1G to add schools like North Carolina or Virginia to the conference, that legit sounds pretty weird.
Even worse, someone said they want to add the Miami Hurricanes too, WTH.
Even worse, someone said they want to add the Miami Hurricanes too, WTH.
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Replace North Carolina with Washington and it would be great.greenyellow wrote:
I don't understand why some people want the B1G to add NC.
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And quite candidly, the elitist attitude was led by Stanford, Cal and Washington. Cal and Srtanford never wanted BSU or Fresno State or SD State.OregonFan4Life wrote:Exactly! The fact is Pac-12 University presidents spent years with an elitist attitude which deluded them to reality, that today people care more about sports, especially football, than academics. Not saying one is right and the other isn’t, but it is just what it is. The Pac could’ve added Oklahoma, Okie St, Texas Tech, and TCU but multiple presidents refused to have religious universities and “academically inferior” universities, leaving the PAC-12 to eventually die behind Larry Scott’s incompetent leadership and the lame Pac-12 network. I do wish Kliavkoff could’ve had a year to try and fix things but I understand why movement is happening now.Duck07 wrote:Oregon State's President in her initial reaction responded about Tier 1 Research Institutions and it was just so telling of why we got to this spot.nogerO wrote: Kinda makes you wonder what the hell they were thinking bringing in that tennis dandy boy who had zero experience running a football conference into the ground. Worked well apparently... we shall see...
While the failure of Tom Hansen followed by Larry Scott is the primary cause, the various University President's and BOT are also responsible for this. Stanford has told the B1G that they'll take a reduction in $ just to get in because even that reduced amount is larger than whatever is coming for the "New Pac" or new Big 12 members.
I remember hearing an interview with the then Chancellor at Cal and he adamantly opposed those institutions. He refered to them as 'lesser instatutions'.
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DuckzRule wrote:Replace North Carolina with Washington and it would be great.greenyellow wrote:
I don't understand why some people want the B1G to add NC.
Why does anyone wants to throw UW a lifeline? Let their athletic dept die. The MWC will
Look good on them. Then when they lose to Montana no one will blink an eye.
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And maybe I better go an anlmduck wrote:And quite candidly, the elitist attitude was led by Stanford, Cal and Washington. Cal and Srtanford never wanted BSU or Fresno State or SD State.OregonFan4Life wrote:Exactly! The fact is Pac-12 University presidents spent years with an elitist attitude which deluded them to reality, that today people care more about sports, especially football, than academics. Not saying one is right and the other isn’t, but it is just what it is. The Pac could’ve added Oklahoma, Okie St, Texas Tech, and TCU but multiple presidents refused to have religious universities and “academically inferior” universities, leaving the PAC-12 to eventually die behind Larry Scott’s incompetent leadership and the lame Pac-12 network. I do wish Kliavkoff could’ve had a year to try and fix things but I understand why movement is happening now.Duck07 wrote:Oregon State's President in her initial reaction responded about Tier 1 Research Institutions and it was just so telling of why we got to this spot.nogerO wrote: Kinda makes you wonder what the hell they were thinking bringing in that tennis dandy boy who had zero experience running a football conference into the ground. Worked well apparently... we shall see...
While the failure of Tom Hansen followed by Larry Scott is the primary cause, the various University President's and BOT are also responsible for this. Stanford has told the B1G that they'll take a reduction in $ just to get in because even that reduced amount is larger than whatever is coming for the "New Pac" or new Big 12 members.
I remember hearing an interview with the then Chancellor at Cal and he adamantly opposed those institutions. He refered to them as 'lesser instatutions'.
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