Pac-12/Big 10/Big 12 Realignment

StreeterCL · Post by **StreeterCL** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:41 am

Sounds like Notre Dame may have rejected the B1G.

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DuckzRule · Post by **DuckzRule** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:44 am

StreeterCL wrote:Sounds like Notre Dame may have rejected the B1G.
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Welp, can't wait to bully the ever living **** out of the Kansas Jayhawks and make tiresome trips to Orlando and Morgantown.

yay

lmduck · Post by **lmduck** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:49 am

DuckzRule wrote:
StreeterCL wrote:Sounds like Notre Dame may have rejected the B1G.
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Welp, can't wait to bully the ever living **** out of the Kansas Jayhawks and make tiresome trips to Orlando and Morgantown.

yay

Sheesh- take it easy . Nothing any of us do or say matters and who knows how reliable this person is. I am not saying this is true or false but why not wait till a credible source says something before getting all riled up?

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pezsez1 · Post by **pezsez1** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:55 am

Is there any situation in which going to the Big-12 turns into a positive? I could see some value in us being the goliath of the third super conference, but clearly we'd trail the B1G and SEC financially and we already know how that goes.

Also, I don't understand how Oregon brings less value than UCLA. I know the LA schools have their TV markets, but doesn't Oregon beat both of those schools with ratings? What good is the big TV market without ratings?

Duck07 · Post by **Duck07** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:03 am

pezsez1 wrote:Is there any situation in which going to the Big-12 turns into a positive? I could see some value in us being the goliath of the third super conference, but clearly we'd trail the B1G and SEC financially and we already know how that goes.

Also, I don't understand how Oregon brings less value than UCLA. I know the LA schools have their TV markets, but doesn't Oregon beat both of those schools with ratings? What good is the big TV market without ratings?

Paid subscribers to XYZ Network. So even if they aren't watching, they're footing $ every month for the sports package. This is also why the Direct TV fiasco was such a nightmare because it was a large loss of revenue.

The one good news right now with LAs gone and 6 Pac teams about to go to the Big 12 is that I've read if 1 more team leaves (9/75%) that nobody is on the hook for bailing out of the conference after the LA schools bolted on the final day to re-up.

DuckzRule · Post by **DuckzRule** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:28 am

Wonder how long is it gonna take for the Big 12 to add the 4 schools they reported today

DuckzRule · Post by **DuckzRule** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:35 am

StreeterCL wrote:Sounds like Notre Dame may have rejected the B1G.
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Dude also said this

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lmduck · Post by **lmduck** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:03 am

DuckzRule wrote:
StreeterCL wrote:Sounds like Notre Dame may have rejected the B1G.
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Dude also said this
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This MHevr person has no credentials listed on their Twitter page. Not saying that invalidates him/her but they clearly seem to be throwing every possible scenario/option at the wall so in the end he/she can pick the closest one and say 'see I told you'.

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DuckzRule · Post by **DuckzRule** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:07 am

These realignment news are getting crazier as time goes on.

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It's best to believe the biggest sources in this case, like CBS

duckmaster · Post by **duckmaster** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:08 am

Nobody on Twitter knows anything and their stories keep changing

B1G probably means Oregon stays relevant nationally

Big 12 probably means we've seen the last Oregon playoffs run

So I do understand why some fans are getting emotional

Duck07 · Post by **Duck07** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:13 am

lmduck wrote:
DuckzRule wrote:
StreeterCL wrote:Sounds like Notre Dame may have rejected the B1G.
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Dude also said this
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This MHevr person has no credentials listed on their Twitter page. Not saying that invalidates him/her but they clearly seem to be throwing every possible scenario/option at the wall so in the end he/she can pick the closest one and say 'see I told you'.

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The Minnesota guy Greg Flugar (sp?) dropped the MHver3 because he was on the Maryland to B1G change before it happened. Nothing he's saying sounds out of the realm of reality so the "I Told You So" taunt seems more of a projection.

We've heard that Stanford went to the B1G with a plea for reduced $ while Oregon and Washington are seemingly balking at being paid a pittance until the next TV deal.

ND deciding to back off could be our biggest hurdle to being paid fairly in the B1G (and also as I stated before how Oregon can likely capture the Seattle and Bay Area viewership without UW or Stanford in order to be welcomed openly to the B1G) and be what sends us to the Big 12 as the Top team in the new conference.

OregonFan4Life · Post by **OregonFan4Life** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:16 am

duckmaster wrote:Nobody on Twitter knows anything and their stories keep changing

B1G probably means Oregon stays relevant nationally

Big 12 probably means we've seen the last Oregon playoffs run

So I do understand why some fans are getting emotional

That seems quite drastic. Yes the B1G would be nice now but in the end if there continues to be major realignment Oregon will eventually get in with the big boys, Oregon is simply too valuable to be left behind. It may not be this year, but it will eventually happen.

lmduck · Post by **lmduck** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:18 am

duckmaster wrote:Nobody on Twitter knows anything and their stories keep changing

B1G probably means Oregon stays relevant nationally

Big 12 probably means we've seen the last Oregon playoffs run

So I do understand why some fans are getting emotional

I totally agree duckmaster. You can be assured NO ONE at even a mid tier management level
In either conference with BIG ties or P12 ties is telling some random dude on Twitter anything. And having some knowledge of how things work when stuff like this goes down, typically anyone who 'talks' risks losing their job.

Not that there is a total parallel here but when the Willy Lyles stuff was going on at UO the staff in the AD were told if they were found to be talking to outside people about the investigation they would lose their job. One person lost his job.

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buckmarkduck · Post by **buckmarkduck** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:19 am

DuckzRule wrote:Massive bruh
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I’m hearing PBS gave a nice offer of 500k a school

Duck07 · Post by **Duck07** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:31 am

duckmaster wrote:Nobody on Twitter knows anything and their stories keep changing

B1G probably means Oregon stays relevant nationally

Big 12 probably means we've seen the last Oregon playoffs run

So I do understand why some fans are getting emotional

Who in the Big 12 is a threat to Oregon making the Playoffs?

The difference between the B1G and SEC vs the Big 12/18 and ACC is going to be the auto-bids given and the sheer difference in those Network payouts. Fox and ESPN run College Football as NBC has decided they aren't as interested in keeping up a major Sports Network and CBS is likely in the same boat. Fox and ESPN aren't going to overbid the ACC and Big 12/18 because they don't need to. (All the good ideas to compete against Fox and ESPN are DOA without LA)

A 12 team playoff ostensibly sees 6 spots for the B1G and SEC, 2 spots the Big 12/18 and ACC with 4 at-large selections based entirely upon the CFP rankings with the Top 4 getting a Bye and thus a very likely 3/4 of the Top 4 will come from the B1G/SEC so that Fox and ESPN can again protect their investments. (Even if you go to 16, take a guess how they'll split those auto-bids.

Further, while there are some people who are throwing things out of the air online (and reacting to everything as well), most educated fans can see the various options that are open for the teams and that while not privy to the specifics of negotiations, we can certainly see the writing on the wall and project what's most likely.