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Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:13 am
by 5$
buckmarkduck wrote:vegasdom wrote:I don't like him. I'd rather have Taggart.
We need a coach who takes D seriously. Did you see what the mutts did last night? We will never beat UW again with a 100+ ranked defense. We need a coach who can win games when the O isn't scoring 50 points.
Exactly. If we want to run a fast-paced offense, we need to be playing 22+ on defense. Aliotti figured it out (with Chip's help), Pellum lost track of its importance, and Hoke had no clue to begin with.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:19 am
by lawduck
This may sound odd but he strikes me as an articulate/alpha dog version of Helf. Their voice even sounds similar. But also, a similar blend of self-deprecation and (attempted) humor. Given that one of the knocks on Helf was his lack of alpha dog-ness, I suppose this would be an improvement. What I want to know is whether he can spot and develop diamond in the rough and underrated players and innovate on the field. Those are the keys to success at Oregon.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:55 am
by Phenom
lawduck wrote:This may sound odd but he strikes me as an articulate/alpha dog version of Helf. Their voice even sounds similar. But also, a similar blend of self-deprecation and (attempted) humor. Given that one of the knocks on Helf was his lack of alpha dog-ness, I suppose this would be an improvement. What I want to know is whether he can spot and develop diamond in the rough and underrated players and innovate on the field. Those are the keys to success at Oregon.
Which he has shown he can do. And he can recruit like no one we've had here.
lol at people who are afraid he might be a douche. Chip was/is a douche and we all want to build a statue for him. All GREAT coaches are confident in their abilities.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:03 pm
by UofDuck
dthomas=ddixon wrote:Everyone wants a Mike Riley personality combined with Saban/Meyer coaching chops. That coach doesn't exist. Big personalities thrive in today's college football.
yeah they do, they go by the names of Dana and Chris Peterson and are class.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:01 pm
by OregonFan4Life
UofDuck wrote:dthomas=ddixon wrote:Everyone wants a Mike Riley personality combined with Saban/Meyer coaching chops. That coach doesn't exist. Big personalities thrive in today's college football.
yeah they do, they go by the names of Dana and Chris Peterson and are class.
Yep and they never recruited any trouble players and never had any sort of controversy in their coaching history....
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Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:16 pm
by Tray Dub
Fleck is NOTHING like Saban or Urban Meyer or Chip. Fleck is smooth, relies on a type of charisma, slick talker. Those guys are terse and hardass. Anyone who's making that comparison needs to watch a video of each of them talking and compare.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:20 pm
by Phenom
Tray Dub wrote:Fleck is NOTHING like Saban or Urban Meyer or Chip. Fleck is smooth, relies on a type of charisma, slick talker. Those guys are terse and hardass. Anyone who's making that comparison needs to watch a video of each of them talking and compare.
Like Pete Carroll.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:44 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
UofDuck wrote:dthomas=ddixon wrote:Everyone wants a Mike Riley personality combined with Saban/Meyer coaching chops. That coach doesn't exist. Big personalities thrive in today's college football.
yeah they do, they go by the names of Dana and Chris Peterson and are class.
Well one of those is a basketball coach, I was talking about what works in college football.
Peterson is the exception.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:49 pm
by Phenom
And not sure if this is a negative personality trait or not but rumor is that Petersen is a scientologist. lol
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 2:56 pm
by duckfan22
Phenom wrote:And not sure if this is a negative personality trait or not but rumor is that Petersen is a scientologist. lol
Lol
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:01 pm
by lawduck
dthomas=ddixon wrote:UofDuck wrote:dthomas=ddixon wrote:Everyone wants a Mike Riley personality combined with Saban/Meyer coaching chops. That coach doesn't exist. Big personalities thrive in today's college football.
yeah they do, they go by the names of Dana and Chris Peterson and are class.
Well one of those is a basketball coach, I was talking about what works in college football.
Peterson is the exception.
I disagree about Peterson. My understanding is behind is public personality he is actually an a-hole. Not uncommon among coaches.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:07 pm
by UofDuck
lawduck wrote:dthomas=ddixon wrote:UofDuck wrote:dthomas=ddixon wrote:Everyone wants a Mike Riley personality combined with Saban/Meyer coaching chops. That coach doesn't exist. Big personalities thrive in today's college football.
yeah they do, they go by the names of Dana and Chris Peterson and are class.
Well one of those is a basketball coach, I was talking about what works in college football.
Peterson is the exception.
I disagree about Peterson. My understanding is behind is public personality he is actually an a-hole. Not uncommon among coaches.
I suspect he is. As is Sabin. I've heard BSU's Harsin is similar. Like Trey pointed out above, those guys are not anything like Fleck.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:08 pm
by fpsduck
lawduck wrote:dthomas=ddixon wrote:UofDuck wrote:dthomas=ddixon wrote:Everyone wants a Mike Riley personality combined with Saban/Meyer coaching chops. That coach doesn't exist. Big personalities thrive in today's college football.
yeah they do, they go by the names of Dana and Chris Peterson and are class.
Well one of those is a basketball coach, I was talking about what works in college football.
Peterson is the exception.
I disagree about Peterson. My understanding is behind is public personality he is actually an a-hole. Not uncommon among coaches.
This is probably closer to the truth. I ain't buying his nice guy routine.
Mike Riley and Mark Richt are nice guys, CP not som much IMO.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:15 pm
by buckmarkduck
I've heard Mullens is a huge prick to work with.
Re: Fleck Personality
Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:27 pm
by greenyellow
buckmarkduck wrote:I've heard Mullens is a huge prick to work with.
Are you talking about Rob Mullens, the UO AD, or Dan Mullen, the Mississippi State HC? I've seen so many people confuse those guys' names that it made entire conversations absolutely confusing.