No confidence in Mullens

[Duck07]

Mullens is arguably the best AD in the country. Almost certainly better at his job than we are at ours.

I'm also going to point out your logo looks more like the Miami Stork than an Oregon Duck so no wonder you think Mullens is a great AD. He gave you a coach.

This ad-hominem stuff will get you banned. Its okay to disagree, don't go that route.

My bad, I was half way joking because I've seen that guy before and I thought he was a Miami fan way before this Critobal stuff happened. However I'll admit after further review that is a Duck.

He's an Alumni who has an interesting story about a school out east that explains his picture.

[duck023]

Mullens is arguably the best AD in the country. Almost certainly better at his job than we are at ours.

I'm also going to point out your logo looks more like the Miami Stork than an Oregon Duck so no wonder you think Mullens is a great AD. He gave you a coach.

This ad-hominem stuff will get you banned. Its okay to disagree, don't go that route.

My bad, I was half way joking because I've seen that guy before and I thought he was a Miami fan way before this Critobal stuff happened. However I'll admit after further review that is a Duck.

He's an Alumni who has an interesting story about a school out east that explains his picture.

That is great but I hope our Alumni can harass the AD a little like the Miami Alumni did. That is all I'm asking. I'm not calling Mullen's a failure or asking him to be fired. I just think we need to pressure him a little especially Alumni like that dude. I did edit my post to point out that you were right about Cristobal leaving and I didn't want to admit it. Had I agreed with you before the UCLA game I think this wouldn't have been such a shock to me.

[Duck07]

That is great but I hope our Alumni can harass the AD a little like the Miami Alumni did. That is all I'm asking. I'm not calling Mullen's a failure or asking him to be fired. I just think we need to pressure him a little especially Alumni like that dude. I did edit my post to point out that you were right about Cristobal leaving and I didn't want to admit it. Had I agreed with you before the UCLA game I think this wouldn't have been such a shock to me.

Knowing who our Alumni are (is), does it not seem reasonable that with Uncle Phil's pull that our Alumni don't need to harass the AD, they (he) just tell him who they accept and that is who Rob hires?

Very few people have a problem with this behind the scenes reality with Phil and the ADept/Dir because as a whole the entire AD/School are better off because of the efforts.

[spacefrog13x]

Or drunk? Maybe Hines?

Hines was never as loquacious.

"he aint comin"

[duck023]

That is great but I hope our Alumni can harass the AD a little like the Miami Alumni did. That is all I'm asking. I'm not calling Mullen's a failure or asking him to be fired. I just think we need to pressure him a little especially Alumni like that dude. I did edit my post to point out that you were right about Cristobal leaving and I didn't want to admit it. Had I agreed with you before the UCLA game I think this wouldn't have been such a shock to me.

Knowing who our Alumni are (is), does it not seem reasonable that with Uncle Phil's pull that our Alumni don't need to harass the AD, they (he) just tell him who they accept and that is who Rob hires?

Very few people have a problem with this behind the scenes reality with Phil and the ADept/Dir because as a whole the entire AD/School are better off because of the efforts.

I don't want to go in circles but Uncle Phil didn't help with the last couple hires. Every head coach Oregon has hired has been underwhelming. Sure Chip and Cristobal were great assistant coaches for Oregon so they ended up being great coaches, but they still had an underwhelming resume for program that has Nike as a booster. Uncle Phil is a laid back guy and doesn't want to put too much pressure on his AD which I can understand. That is where us fans have to step up and be a little obnoxious if we don't want them to hire some guy that should be coaching at Eastern Washington.

[OregonFan4Life]

I can say with 100% certainty that Phil is really kind and encouraging, but he’s more than involved with coaching decisions at Oregon, especially in football. Remember at one point he was questioning the coaching staff so he got a headset to hear coaching conversations during the game. Phil is absolutely 100% involved and Mullens is very aware that if he wants to keep his job at Oregon he needs to make Phil happy.

[roleplay3r1]

Every week it seems like a great coach leaves Oregon. First Moorehead and now Deruyter who are both head coaching material. We all know Mullens has a history of settling for a medicore coach so if Oregon was going to have a medicore coach I'd rather hire from within. The fact that all the coaches are fleeing like it's a natural disaster is not a good thing.

So you don't want coordinators and position coaches who have the skills and talent to become head coaches? You'd rather have position coaches who have a ceiling with less skills and talent that limits their growth and potential?

Turnover comes with the territory of being successful. And the magnitude of the turnover increases when your head coach leaves, or is that Mullens fault as well?

I'm willing to bet anybody 100 dollars that Moorehead is better than the coach Mullen's ends up hiring. I'll throw Deruyter in there too.

Maybe. Both have about a .500 record coaching at the FBS level though. Not sure what is warranting that claim.

I felt they could have kept the assistant coaches around who were pretty solid. Now it looks like a complete clean house and the Duck's will have the start from scratch.

Is your desire to increase assistant coach retention? The best programs around the country routinely have their top assistants leave for bigger jobs. We want those top minds to be a part of the program, even if it is just as a stepping stone. A coach who stays for 10+ years and is successful at the championship level is extremely rare in college football. What exactly are you looking for here?

[duck023]

Every week it seems like a great coach leaves Oregon. First Moorehead and now Deruyter who are both head coaching material. We all know Mullens has a history of settling for a medicore coach so if Oregon was going to have a medicore coach I'd rather hire from within. The fact that all the coaches are fleeing like it's a natural disaster is not a good thing.

So you don't want coordinators and position coaches who have the skills and talent to become head coaches? You'd rather have position coaches who have a ceiling with less skills and talent that limits their growth and potential?

Turnover comes with the territory of being successful. And the magnitude of the turnover increases when your head coach leaves, or is that Mullens fault as well?

I'm willing to bet anybody 100 dollars that Moorehead is better than the coach Mullen's ends up hiring. I'll throw Deruyter in there too.

Maybe. Both have about a .500 record coaching at the FBS level though. Not sure what is warranting that claim.

I felt they could have kept the assistant coaches around who were pretty solid. Now it looks like a complete clean house and the Duck's will have the start from scratch.

Is your desire to increase assistant coach retention? The best programs around the country routinely have their top assistants leave for bigger jobs. We want those top minds to be a part of the program, even if it is just as a stepping stone. A coach who stays for 10+ years and is successful at the championship level is extremely rare in college football. What exactly are you looking for here?

The thing is I'm getting ready for an underwhelming coach so I thought one of the positives would be that at least Oregon has some good assistants. Now that I know Oregon is completely cleaning house I know Oregon won't be very good unless they hit a home run with their head coach hire and that is very unlikely. For example if you put Wilcox with the assistants Oregon had he might have had a chance. Wilcox and his choice of assistants don't have a chance.

[duck023]

Every week it seems like a great coach leaves Oregon. First Moorehead and now Deruyter who are both head coaching material. We all know Mullens has a history of settling for a medicore coach so if Oregon was going to have a medicore coach I'd rather hire from within. The fact that all the coaches are fleeing like it's a natural disaster is not a good thing.

So you don't want coordinators and position coaches who have the skills and talent to become head coaches? You'd rather have position coaches who have a ceiling with less skills and talent that limits their growth and potential?

Turnover comes with the territory of being successful. And the magnitude of the turnover increases when your head coach leaves, or is that Mullens fault as well?

I'm willing to bet anybody 100 dollars that Moorehead is better than the coach Mullen's ends up hiring. I'll throw Deruyter in there too.

Maybe. Both have about a .500 record coaching at the FBS level though. Not sure what is warranting that claim.

I felt they could have kept the assistant coaches around who were pretty solid. Now it looks like a complete clean house and the Duck's will have the start from scratch.

Is your desire to increase assistant coach retention? The best programs around the country routinely have their top assistants leave for bigger jobs. We want those top minds to be a part of the program, even if it is just as a stepping stone. A coach who stays for 10+ years and is successful at the championship level is extremely rare in college football. What exactly are you looking for here?

I do think you are right about one thing. Oregon is going to want to be a stepping stone for great coaches but one 4-8 season could ruin that and they are one bad hire away from going 4-8 again.

[greenyellow]

duck023, think about taking a break for a bit as you are just so negative/sky is falling right now.