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Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:15 pm
by jibbajabba614
Yeah well KVH ended up being restricted and Billups got a bump in handles. Just going off of simming

So you could say pretty close.

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:18 pm
by JB
duckyoubeavers wrote:
JB wrote:Did everything I could to get into the top 3.

I would have taken TMac 1.
bold statement. i could see him over duncan as hes younger but hes basically a more raw kobe
All of them are gonna be sweet but yeah I woulda gone TMac, Kobe, TD in that order. More risk, more reward. I usually just take that approach when rebuilding but I understand not feeling that way if you're not as willing to roll the dice

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:33 pm
by The Bean Regime
I think JB just hasn't been around long enough to see how deadly the "amazing raw" descriptor is. :lol:

I'd probably take McGrady over Duncan since Duncan looks pretty meh (for a clear superstar prospect I mean :P ).

As for KVH and Cassell, quite low on both tbh. As far as #4s and #5s go, they seem very weak.

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:36 pm
by pistolpetejr
The Bean Regime wrote:I think JB just hasn't been around long enough to see how deadly the "amazing raw" descriptor is. :lol:

I'd probably take him over Duncan since Duncan looks pretty meh (for a clear superstar prospect I mean :P ).

As for KVH and Cassell, quite low on both tbh. As far as #4s and #5s go, they seem very weak.
I’m sure you mean Billups.

Tbh I don’t know why, but I have a feeling Billups is gonna be sick.

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:37 pm
by The Bean Regime
pistolpetejr wrote:
The Bean Regime wrote:I think JB just hasn't been around long enough to see how deadly the "amazing raw" descriptor is. :lol:

I'd probably take him over Duncan since Duncan looks pretty meh (for a clear superstar prospect I mean :P ).

As for KVH and Cassell, quite low on both tbh. As far as #4s and #5s go, they seem very weak.
I’m sure you mean Billups.

Tbh I don’t know why, but I have a feeling Billups is gonna be sick.
Yeah Billups :lol:

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:38 pm
by JB
The Bean Regime wrote:I think JB just hasn't been around long enough to see how deadly the "amazing raw" descriptor is. :lol:

I'd probably take McGrady over Duncan since Duncan looks pretty meh (for a clear superstar prospect I mean :P ).

As for KVH and Cassell, quite low on both tbh. As far as #4s and #5s go, they seem very weak.
I didn't even really look at the descriptions, just the draft preview page

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:43 pm
by duckyoubeavers
JB wrote:
duckyoubeavers wrote:
JB wrote:Did everything I could to get into the top 3.

I would have taken TMac 1.
bold statement. i could see him over duncan as hes younger but hes basically a more raw kobe
All of them are gonna be sweet but yeah I woulda gone TMac, Kobe, TD in that order. More risk, more reward. I usually just take that approach when rebuilding but I understand not feeling that way if you're not as willing to roll the dice
Seems like it's more risk same reward. Kobe and TMac have similar ceilings but Kobe is starting off with a higher floor

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:45 pm
by jibbajabba614
The Bean Regime wrote:I think JB just hasn't been around long enough to see how deadly the "amazing raw" descriptor is. :lol:

I'd probably take McGrady over Duncan since Duncan looks pretty meh (for a clear superstar prospect I mean :P ).

As for KVH and Cassell, quite low on both tbh. As far as #4s and #5s go, they seem very weak.
I dunno. Bradley, Divac, Zo all started as prime rim protectors. Duncan already has an offensive game and rim protecting skill set.

If I wanted to build a contending in 2-3 seasons, I’d go Duncan

If I wanted to rebuild for 5-6 years, I’d go TMac

Amazing raw guys seem to reach full potential 4-5 seasons later

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:18 pm
by dd10snoop28
draft kinda sucks outside of top 3

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:23 pm
by Craig
Well we dont need 10 all stars in every draft

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:33 pm
by dd10snoop28
true, past few drafts have been quite strong so I guess this is good for inflation

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:34 pm
by jibbajabba614
dd10snoop28 wrote:draft kinda sucks outside of top 3
If going by RL, after Duncan, draft was pretty bust.

KVH became a role player. Tim Thomas a fourth option.

TMac was an unknown at 9… Billups bounced around league until ending up with Pistons.

Ownage putting Kobe in 97 made it much more interesting

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:35 pm
by Zyme
dd10snoop28 wrote:true, past few drafts have been quite strong so I guess this is good for inflation
The Eddie Js of the world are healthy for the league but devestating for the teams. On the whole a necessary evil

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:40 pm
by The Bean Regime
Craig wrote:Well we dont need 10 all stars in every draft
Well 3 all stars in a draft is pretty much the real-life minimum, so you'd hope for more than that. :P

KVH is looking a lot like Ferry who's probably had the best outside-PF seasons so far. LaPhonso Ellis worked out, but he was moved to SF pretty much immediately and only plays there, a luxury neither of the former 2 have.

Billups definitely has a more appealing foundation, but just lacks the little extra that nearly every other PG had coming in (Kenny Smith defense, KJ inside scoring, Payton defense, Mookie inside). His only B- being handling is a knock imo since that's always the easiest to develop (though handling itself not so much, but rather just passing affecting it so strongly).

Re: 1997 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 6:41 pm
by The Bean Regime
Zyme wrote:
dd10snoop28 wrote:true, past few drafts have been quite strong so I guess this is good for inflation
The Eddie Js of the world are healthy for the league but devestating for the teams. On the whole a necessary evil
:lol:

Honestly a strong SG class too. Just so happened it wasn't because of him. :lol: