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Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:11 pm
by Duck07
Bigducker wrote:
Duck24 wrote:Typical NCAA bunk. I don't understand why selling their rings that they earned is a violation. They earned it so why is it against the rules? Even selling their jerseys, who cares? I can go to espnstore right now and buy Posey or Pryor's jersey. So hypocritical. They can't profit from their notoriety but the NCAA can make billions. I'm not saying they should be paid but who gives a crap if they sell their own jerseys/pants/rings/other memorabilia? It's their property last time I checked.
NCAA rules are the rules no matter how unfair or screwed up the are.
I definitely agree they need to change but why allow group of college players to get away with it and everyone else has to abide by them.
Because its not being enforced anywhere else. This happens at every single school.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:12 pm
by Bigducker
woundedknees wrote:No Heisman campaign?

TP goes pro ASAP!
Yep... He's gone. Why would he stick around with nothing to play for.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:15 pm
by Bigducker
Duck07 wrote:
Bigducker wrote:
Duck24 wrote:Typical NCAA bunk. I don't understand why selling their rings that they earned is a violation. They earned it so why is it against the rules? Even selling their jerseys, who cares? I can go to espnstore right now and buy Posey or Pryor's jersey. So hypocritical. They can't profit from their notoriety but the NCAA can make billions. I'm not saying they should be paid but who gives a crap if they sell their own jerseys/pants/rings/other memorabilia? It's their property last time I checked.
NCAA rules are the rules no matter how unfair or screwed up the are.
I definitely agree they need to change but why allow group of college players to get away with it and everyone else has to abide by them.
Because its not being enforced anywhere else. This happens at every single school.
It might and probably does but, if the NCAA finds out they will get the same treatment.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:19 pm
by buckmarkduck
No one will draft him, what good would it be for him to leave.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:21 pm
by Duck07
Bigducker wrote:
woundedknees wrote:No Heisman campaign?

TP goes pro ASAP!
Yep... He's gone. Why would he stick around with nothing to play for.
To improve his draft stock, which is why he went to OSU in the first place; play in a pro style offense. I don't see a whole lot of teams jumping on TP with Luck and Newton seemingly both first round locks. Mallett and Locker are both better than TP (Yea, yea, let me hear it)

If he comes out next year its Matt Barkely, Nick Foles and probably Kellen Moore that he's positioning against. With next season looking like rookie contracts will go down significantly, it will be even more important to grade out high and that certainly won't be the case this year.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:35 pm
by maxduck
Duck24 wrote:Typical NCAA bunk. I don't understand why selling their rings that they earned is a violation. They earned it so why is it against the rules? Even selling their jerseys, who cares? I can go to espnstore right now and buy Posey or Pryor's jersey. So hypocritical. They can't profit from their notoriety but the NCAA can make billions. I'm not saying they should be paid but who gives a crap if they sell their own jerseys/pants/rings/other memorabilia? It's their property last time I checked.
Cam Newton wrist bands--$50,000 each
Reggie Bush towel--$30,000
Tim Tebow Bible--$75,000

Not as far fetched as it sounds.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:49 pm
by Boom
buckmarkduck wrote:No one will draft him, what good would it be for him to leave.
If Jake Locker can be a 1st round pick....... Then Pryor is worth at least a 4th rounder.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:08 pm
by amazon
Some of these rules may be petty and stupid but the schools go over the rules ad nauseum to make sure the kids know them and keep out of trouble. The idea that they weren't suspended for the Sugar Bowl game because "the NCAA determined they did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred" is ridiculous.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:12 pm
by RuhlandAsherBestEver
It's not that they are stupid it just hard being broke for five years. We have
made the rules so stringent on them yet the NCAA just keep hauling it in.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:16 pm
by woundedknees
RuhlandAsherBestEver wrote:It's not that they are stupid it just hard not driving my new SUV in public for five years. We have
made the rules so stringent on them yet the NCAA just keep hauling it in.
Wasn't it USC's McKnight who said, after being questioned about the Black Rover he was driving, who said, "You guys are ruining my life!", about the media coverage that brought the incident to light?

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:36 pm
by SuperDuck
Boom wrote:
buckmarkduck wrote:No one will draft him, what good would it be for him to leave.
If Jake Locker can be a 1st round pick....... Then Pryor is worth at least a 4th rounder.
Actually, I think Pryor is better than Locker. He's just as good of an athlete, if not better, but he hasn't gotten to show it as much in their offense, just like Sarkisian has put the clamps on Locker. He's also got a better arm than Locker. I'd say they both go between round 2-4.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:43 pm
by Boom
RuhlandAsherBestEver wrote:It's not that they are stupid it just hard being broke for five years. We have
made the rules so stringent on them yet the NCAA just keep hauling it in.
Hypocrisy at it's finest

College football is a business and as such should have to follow common business/labor laws.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:54 pm
by bellsduck
Boom wrote:
RuhlandAsherBestEver wrote:It's not that they are stupid it just hard being broke for five years. We have
made the rules so stringent on them yet the NCAA just keep hauling it in.
Hypocrisy at it's finest

College football is a business and as such should have to follow common business/labor laws.
Fine, pay them $7.25/hr for their game time and practice time, take out taxes, and then make them pay for their own tuition. Seems fair.

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 3:59 pm
by woundedknees
Nice idea, but wouldn't Chung, who entered Oregon at the age of 16, have fallen under Federal Child Labor Protection Laws?

Re: Pryor suspended.....

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:00 pm
by Boom
bellsduck wrote:
Boom wrote:
RuhlandAsherBestEver wrote:It's not that they are stupid it just hard being broke for five years. We have
made the rules so stringent on them yet the NCAA just keep hauling it in.
Hypocrisy at it's finest

College football is a business and as such should have to follow common business/labor laws.
Fine, pay them $7.25/hr for their game time and practice time, take out taxes, and then make them pay for their own tuition. Seems fair.
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