Is this the best recruiting class ever

[karlhungis]

Why don't we let him set foot on campus before we determine if he is better than snoop and cliff? He certainly has more hype than anyone we've ever recruited before. For him to be called "the future of football" and "the best athlete to come out of LA in the last 20 years", there has to be something special about him.

[Supreme]

Not only is this the best class Oregon has ever gotten, but DAT is the best skill position player Oregon has ever gotten.

No way DAT is better than Halloti Ngata or Jonathon Stewart!

I'm not sure how you compare a DT to a RB, but Thomas was/is the most hyped recruit to come out of LA in almost 10 years. And I've seen em play. Dude had like 4 carries for 110 yards in the first quarter against one of the best teams in the nation.

[Boom]

Why don't we let him set foot on campus before we determine if he is better than snoop and cliff? He certainly has more hype than anyone we've ever recruited before. For him to be called "the future of football" and "the best athlete to come out of LA in the last 20 years", there has to be something special about him.

I think it's an LA thing

Snoop was a chiseled 235lbs with a 4.45 40ty coming out of high school.... No way this kid should projects better @RB. Not saying he wont be special, but Snoop was a once in a lifetime talent (too bad he was rarely healthy).

[dthomas=ddixon]

We've got plenty of DE's. Lake ,Kamp ( is listed at less than 240lbs in some sites),Hart are NOT true D-tackles.Their make do D-tackles.
Coach Azz has done a tremendous job with the makeshift D-line he has had to put together. The only true stud D tackle we've gotten in a long time is Heimuli. We need more.
Think how great Azz could make our D-line if he actually had some true D-tackles to work with.

Maybe in your opinion, but those are exactly the types of DTs Azz wants in his system.

Can we all just get over the "true DT" thing? Yeah we get it, a guy can't be a good DT in your fantasy land unless he's over 300 lbs. But in real life a college DT doesn't have to be a 350 lb moster, especially in our system. You'd all save yourself a lot of stress & worry if you just accepted that. Lake Koa-ka'i is like the prototype DT for us. If he puts on about 20 lbs (heard he's around 260) he'll be exactly what we want. Well maybe not what you fans want but he'll be what Azz & Chip want.

[headshottzzzz]

Not only is this the best class Oregon has ever gotten, but DAT is the best skill position player Oregon has ever gotten.

No way DAT is better than Halloti Ngata or Jonathon Stewart!

Considering skill positions don't traditionally include OL/DL, then only Stewart is applicable. If you want overall, regardless of position, then you can add in Ngata.

Yeah.

As far as talent/hype/recruiting rankings are concerned, the only people even in the ballpark are Cam Colvin and J-Stew. Stewart had the NFL body and everything that came with it, but Lacey, WA is a far cry from the LA City Section, a section I am very familiar with. DAT not only put up insane stats on both sides of the ball, but he did so in arguably the toughest division on this side of the Mississippi, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. De'Anthony played some of the toughest teams in the country the past 4 years and was the best player on the field just about every time.

He might not look like much, but his height is the only thing separating him from GOAT skill position recruit. Stewart was great for us and I don't want to diminish what he did, but coming out of high school his aura was nothing compared to where DAT is right now. If he pans out and realizes his full potential, DAT has "top 25 best college players of all time" written all over him, and I don't think many people who have seen him play would dispute that.

And to whomever said Cliff > DAT as a CB prospect, you're wrong. Maybe Cliff will turn out better, but DAT would be the #1 CB in the nation if he only wanted to play CB. DAT might be smaller than Cliff, but he's physically superior to him in every way coming out of high school.

[Zyme]

I don't think we are disputing that DAT has Stud written all over him. Hell he could still have a growth spurt and put on 30 lbs of muscle. (Imagine him 5'11" 200).

[Boom]

Not only is this the best class Oregon has ever gotten, but DAT is the best skill position player Oregon has ever gotten.

No way DAT is better than Halloti Ngata or Jonathon Stewart!

Considering skill positions don't traditionally include OL/DL, then only Stewart is applicable. If you want overall, regardless of position, then you can add in Ngata.

Yeah.

As far as talent/hype/recruiting rankings are concerned, the only people even in the ballpark are Cam Colvin and J-Stew. Stewart had the NFL body and everything that came with it, but Lacey, WA is a far cry from the LA City Section, a section I am very familiar with. DAT not only put up insane stats on both sides of the ball, but he did so in arguably the toughest division on this side of the Mississippi, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. De'Anthony played some of the toughest teams in the country the past 4 years and was the best player on the field just about every time.

He might not look like much, but his height is the only thing separating him from GOAT skill position recruit. Stewart was great for us and I don't want to diminish what he did, but coming out of high school his aura was nothing compared to where DAT is right now. If he pans out and realizes his full potential, DAT has "top 25 best college players of all time" written all over him, and I don't think many people who have seen him play would dispute that.

And to whomever said Cliff > DAT as a CB prospect, you're wrong. Maybe Cliff will turn out better, but DAT would be the #1 CB in the nation if he only wanted to play CB. DAT might be smaller than Cliff, but he's physically superior to him in every way coming out of high school.

ya, you're probably right, but I watched Cliff lock receivers down at the All American Army game. He has also led Oregon in every major passing category since then. Cliff was a 5* recruit in my book.

If DAT is better than Cliff then I hope he plays CB

[headshottzzzz]

^^ I didn't mean to come off as harsh and defensive as I did, so sorry about that.

Cliff was a great prospect for us, but coming out of HS at least I don't think many people considered him 'elite.' DAT is universally considered to be an elite CB prospect.

What's scary though is that he has the athleticism and know-how to be a beast, and I mean BEAST on the offensive side of the ball as well. His versatility makes him special.

[Supreme]

Not only is this the best class Oregon has ever gotten, but DAT is the best skill position player Oregon has ever gotten.

No way DAT is better than Halloti Ngata or Jonathon Stewart!

Considering skill positions don't traditionally include OL/DL, then only Stewart is applicable. If you want overall, regardless of position, then you can add in Ngata.

Yeah.

As far as talent/hype/recruiting rankings are concerned, the only people even in the ballpark are Cam Colvin and J-Stew. Stewart had the NFL body and everything that came with it, but Lacey, WA is a far cry from the LA City Section, a section I am very familiar with. DAT not only put up insane stats on both sides of the ball, but he did so in arguably the toughest division on this side of the Mississippi, and I'm not exaggerating when I say that. De'Anthony played some of the toughest teams in the country the past 4 years and was the best player on the field just about every time.

He might not look like much, but his height is the only thing separating him from GOAT skill position recruit. Stewart was great for us and I don't want to diminish what he did, but coming out of high school his aura was nothing compared to where DAT is right now. If he pans out and realizes his full potential, DAT has "top 25 best college players of all time" written all over him, and I don't think many people who have seen him play would dispute that.

And to whomever said Cliff > DAT as a CB prospect, you're wrong. Maybe Cliff will turn out better, but DAT would be the #1 CB in the nation if he only wanted to play CB. DAT might be smaller than Cliff, but he's physically superior to him in every way coming out of high school.

ya, you're probably right, but I watched Cliff lock receivers down at the All American Army game. He has also led Oregon in every major passing category since then. Cliff was a 5* recruit in my book.

If DAT is better than Cliff then I hope he plays CB

I assume you watched this years Army All American game? If you did, I'm sure you heard DAT's names called on just about every play. And he was playing corner, a position he's raw at.

[Zyme]

Just pencil him in as the PR and have him and cliff paired up on KR. That would just be unfair.

[headshottzzzz]

Just pencil him in as the PR and have him and cliff paired up on KR. That would just be unfair.

What's really unfair to think about is if you throw Sumer, DAT, and LMJ on the same field together. LMJ would be the slowest guy of the 3.

Read that on a Bruce Feldman tweet, and it's true.

[Pontius]

^^ I didn't mean to come off as harsh and defensive as I did, so sorry about that.

Cliff was a great prospect for us, but coming out of HS at least I don't think many people considered him 'elite.' DAT is universally considered to be an elite CB prospect.

What's scary though is that he has the athleticism and know-how to be a beast, and I mean BEAST on the offensive side of the ball as well. His versatility makes him special.

Cliff was by and large considered the best cover corner in the nation that year as well as the top CB in the West. I think concerns about his grades were cause for him to be not as widely respected in his overall grade on a few sites. Same thing happened with Colt Lyerla this year. Lyerla dropped on every site from his summer ratings and this was basically due to rumors about his attitude/grades. Same thing happened with Cliff and like Lyerla, he only became considered elite with Rivals and after dominating the All-American week. Scout and ESPN severely lacked follow through in their final rating of Cliff and Lyerla IMO. And this is maybe why you don't think Cliff was considered elite.

[Bigducker]

We've got plenty of DE's. Lake ,Kamp ( is listed at less than 240lbs in some sites),Hart are NOT true D-tackles.Their make do D-tackles.
Coach Azz has done a tremendous job with the makeshift D-line he has had to put together. The only true stud D tackle we've gotten in a long time is Heimuli. We need more.
Think how great Azz could make our D-line if he actually had some true D-tackles to work with.

Maybe in your opinion, but those are exactly the types of DTs Azz wants in his system.
Can we all just get over the "true DT" thing? Yeah we get it, a guy can't be a good DT in your fantasy land unless he's over 300 lbs. But in real life a college DT doesn't have to be a 350 lb moster, especially in our system. You'd all save yourself a lot of stress & worry if you just accepted that. Lake Koa-ka'i is like the prototype DT for us . If he puts on about 20 lbs (heard he's around 260) he'll be exactly what we want. Well maybe not what you fans want but he'll be what Azz & Chip want.

Oh really. What size is Jared Ebert? What size is Ricky Heimuli ? The coaches wouldn't want any more Heimuli's would they ? And I'm sure they wouldn't want any Nic Fairley's either. Their very happy with converted TE's and DE's. Get Real .
I've even heard Chip say Quote "I'd love to get some big quick 300lb DT's, but of course their hard to come by".
If you think Chip's happy with what we got at DT your the one in in fantasy land.

[huckthefuskies]

I could have sworn a year or maybe two ago Allioti made a comment along the lines of (he would like 2 guys as big as he can get to plug the middle and the other 9 guys as fast as he can get to fly around reaking havoc).. I can't recall ever hearing any of our coaches saying they prefer lighter quicker players as def tackles.

[UofO8]

Just pencil him in as the PR and have him and cliff paired up on KR. That would just be unfair.

Yup, i think he is going to be amazing in the return game. Screw it, let's just play this kid both ways