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Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:01 pm
by nogerO
Lillard is showing his true colors.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:20 pm
by buckmarkduck
So what’s Dame going to do if he’s still a Blazer in a few months?

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:09 pm
by squintsdd
buckmarkduck wrote:So what’s Dame going to do if he’s still a Blazer in a few months?
I don't think his work ethic would allow him to sit out, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he'll be told by management to stay home.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:02 pm
by pezsez1
I think he'll play, in part because I don't think Cronin/Jody have any kind of real plan.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:27 am
by squintsdd
pezsez1 wrote:I think he'll play, in part because I don't think Cronin/Jody have any kind of real plan.
I don't think they have any kind of plan, but if they hope to eventually trade him they can't risk him getting injured

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:40 am
by Duck07
squintsdd wrote:
pezsez1 wrote:I think he'll play, in part because I don't think Cronin/Jody have any kind of real plan.
I don't think they have any kind of plan, but if they hope to eventually trade him they can't risk him getting injured
Yeah, Dame locked any door to returning to play along Scoot as a SG the day after FA started and he demanded out.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:52 am
by Phalanx
pezsez1 wrote:I think he'll play, in part because I don't think Cronin/Jody have any kind of real plan.
This seems like an easy thing to type from your armchair. What plan were they supposed to have after they spent the last decade building the team around Lillard only to have him pout and ask for a trade because they actually dared to use their own draft pick? The dude is almost 30% of their active roster payroll and they don't know what they can get coming back for him, so yeah, some things are still up in the air. That tends to happen when a guy under contract for four years comes out publicly asking for a trade.

The plan is pretty obvious - get whatever you can for Lillard and then start again with Scoot, Sharpe, and Ant (and Grant). If Lillard hasn't sapped all the energy from the team, it's a better plan than they've had since Aldridge took off.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:45 am
by pezsez1
The plan is pretty obvious - get whatever you can for Lillard and then start again with Scoot, Sharpe, and Ant (and Grant).
If anything, the Jody/Bert plan is most likely "get maximum value for Lillard" without any regard to the basketball. It actually isn't fair of me to pin that on Cronin. I don't think he has any real influence.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:23 pm
by SuperDuck
I love what Dame has done in Portland and will cheer for him every game he plays elsewhere (except against Portland).

I just think it's in the best interest of the franchise to move on now. Try to get Dame to a contender, but get as much as they can in return.

Dame may not want to go to Boston, but he could win a championship there. Utah has a LOT of assets to offer.

It needs to happen soon.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2023 6:32 pm
by buckmarkduck
SuperDuck wrote:I love what Dame has done in Portland and will cheer for him every game he plays elsewhere (except against Portland).

I just think it's in the best interest of the franchise to move on now. Try to get Dame to a contender, but get as much as they can in return.

Dame may not want to go to Boston, but he could win a championship there. Utah has a LOT of assets to offer.

It needs to happen soon.

Disagree, it needs to happen when we get a deal worth taking.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:13 am
by SuperDuck
buckmarkduck wrote:
SuperDuck wrote:I love what Dame has done in Portland and will cheer for him every game he plays elsewhere (except against Portland).

I just think it's in the best interest of the franchise to move on now. Try to get Dame to a contender, but get as much as they can in return.

Dame may not want to go to Boston, but he could win a championship there. Utah has a LOT of assets to offer.

It needs to happen soon.

Disagree, it needs to happen when we get a deal worth taking.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:41 pm
by Phalanx
Rumors that Toronto is entering the chat. I guarantee money-grabbing Lillard does not want to be traded to a place where the taxes are so high, especially with no income tax in Miami. So the question in my mind is whether this is a bluff-calling measure by the Blazers to get Lillard to agree to other teams.

Glad to see talks are happening in any case.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:11 am
by squintsdd
Phalanx wrote:Rumors that Toronto is entering the chat. I guarantee money-grabbing Lillard does not want to be traded to a place where the taxes are so high, especially with no income tax in Miami. So the question in my mind is whether this is a bluff-calling measure by the Blazers to get Lillard to agree to other teams.

Glad to see talks are happening in any case.
Toronto is where Portland was a couple of years ago. They can't decide if they should go all in, or rebuild. They have the assets to give up, but would that leave them enough to win like Lillard wants?

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:27 am
by droop10
Dame trade complete, and it's completely out of the blue. 3-way trade with Suns/Bucks that has Dame going to Bucks.

Blazers got Jrue Holiday, who they'll likely flip, Deandre Ayton, Toumani Camara, MIL 2029 1st round pick, right to swap 2028 and 2030 with MIL. All picks are unprotected.

They did trade aware Nurkic, little and Keon Johnson, whom all ended up with the Suns.

Re: Blazers 2023-2024 Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:53 am
by Duck07
droop10 wrote:Dame trade complete, and it's completely out of the blue. 3-way trade with Suns/Bucks that has Dame going to Bucks.

Blazers got Jrue Holiday, who they'll likely flip, Deandre Ayton, Toumani Camara, MIL 2029 1st round pick, right to swap 2028 and 2030 with MIL. All picks are unprotected.

They did trade aware Nurkic, little and Keon Johnson, whom all ended up with the Suns.
Well the team is now in a pretty great situation cap wise and there's a chance those picks in 28,29,30 might start paying off right as Scoot/Shae/Atyon hit their primes.

I'm going to assume that there really weren't better offers on the table to essentially come away with Ayton and picks as the prize and that's okay.