squintsdd wrote:From everything I've heard and read the conclusion I've come to at this point in time is that nobody truly knows anything outside of conference and school top brass. My gut feeling says in the end nothing happens immediately and in a year or two we will see realignment with the big 12 and possibly the ACC. I don't think the B1G has any interest in bringing in Oregon unfortunately. If they did it would've happened with USC/UCLA. The only no brainer for the B1G is Notre Dame, and they don't even seem all that hung up on them either. The B1G got what it wanted with getting Southern California TV viewers and recruiting grounds. Oregon doesn't bring enough to the table. The only thing Oregon can bring is viewers, which I don't think is enough in itself for the B1G. People can say Nike all they want, but remember Oregon is Nike, Nike is not Oregon. Nike can't buy or bully Oregon's way in. The B1G and its schools can easily tell Nike to go pound sand and they'll take their business to one of its competitors at the first opportunity.
I will respectfully disagree squints. I don't think this goes on for a year or two. Something has to give because the gauntlet has been thrown down and those who wait will be left behind. When Texas and Okla left the Big 12 that was the game changer.
squintsdd wrote:From everything I've heard and read the conclusion I've come to at this point in time is that nobody truly knows anything outside of conference and school top brass. My gut feeling says in the end nothing happens immediately and in a year or two we will see realignment with the big 12 and possibly the ACC. I don't think the B1G has any interest in bringing in Oregon unfortunately. If they did it would've happened with USC/UCLA. The only no brainer for the B1G is Notre Dame, and they don't even seem all that hung up on them either. The B1G got what it wanted with getting Southern California TV viewers and recruiting grounds. Oregon doesn't bring enough to the table. The only thing Oregon can bring is viewers, which I don't think is enough in itself for the B1G. People can say Nike all they want, but remember Oregon is Nike, Nike is not Oregon. Nike can't buy or bully Oregon's way in. The B1G and its schools can easily tell Nike to go pound sand and they'll take their business to one of its competitors at the first opportunity.
I will respectfully disagree squints. I don't think this goes on for a year or two. Something has to give because the gauntlet has been thrown down and those who wait will be left behind. When Texas and Okla left the Big 12 that was the game changer.
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I agree, it was. There might be some minor movement. Maybe Sam Diego and a smaller school moving to the pac12, but as far as major movement, I don't see it coming this year, not at this point in time anyway. I have a hard time believing that USC and the B1G have only recently been talking prior to the move. I think it's been in the works for a while now.
At tgis point, if we want to stay relevant it’s big, sec or ACC. No other scenario keeps UO at the forefront. If we can’t get into the big, we have to align with UW(spit) and Stanford. Sell what we have to offer to the ACC.
First of all, I still feel so sorry for the University, they are waiting for an invite that will never come thanks to the B1G stupidly waiting for Notre Dame who are obviously either gonna take a while to decide or are gonna say "no".
While I doubt that this is true, this might force the remaining PAC schools to merge with the Big-12. I would think there would be more interest in seeing if we could work something out with your ACC first from both a football (Clemson, Florida State) and basketball (UNC, Duke). Arizona would be more interested in the later.
First of all, I still feel so sorry for the University, they are waiting for an invite that will never come thanks to the B1G stupidly waiting for Notre Dame who are obviously either gonna take a while to decide or are gonna say "no".
Second, what happened to the Utah Utes!?
We have heard zero from the big or UO. Wilner can act like he knows, but he knew nothing about the SoCal school leaving until they left. If it was cut and dry, UO would have moved on already. Uw/UO clearly aren’t getting the same info that wannabe insiders think they are getting.
squintsdd wrote:From everything I've heard and read the conclusion I've come to at this point in time is that nobody truly knows anything outside of conference and school top brass. My gut feeling says in the end nothing happens immediately and in a year or two we will see realignment with the big 12 and possibly the ACC. I don't think the B1G has any interest in bringing in Oregon unfortunately. If they did it would've happened with USC/UCLA. The only no brainer for the B1G is Notre Dame, and they don't even seem all that hung up on them either. The B1G got what it wanted with getting Southern California TV viewers and recruiting grounds. Oregon doesn't bring enough to the table. The only thing Oregon can bring is viewers, which I don't think is enough in itself for the B1G. People can say Nike all they want, but remember Oregon is Nike, Nike is not Oregon. Nike can't buy or bully Oregon's way in. The B1G and its schools can easily tell Nike to go pound sand and they'll take their business to one of its competitors at the first opportunity.
Other than Ohio State, what B1G school has a more realistic chance of winning the CFP than Oregon both in the short and long term?
Oregon is just as good as any potential #2 in the B1G and if they really want to overtake the SEC than you need teams that can make and win the CFP and be in the discussion every single year.
This is making some rounds (Twitter from Greg Flugar):
"RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Clash of Champioms "Bowl"
Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year."
squintsdd wrote:From everything I've heard and read the conclusion I've come to at this point in time is that nobody truly knows anything outside of conference and school top brass. My gut feeling says in the end nothing happens immediately and in a year or two we will see realignment with the big 12 and possibly the ACC. I don't think the B1G has any interest in bringing in Oregon unfortunately. If they did it would've happened with USC/UCLA. The only no brainer for the B1G is Notre Dame, and they don't even seem all that hung up on them either. The B1G got what it wanted with getting Southern California TV viewers and recruiting grounds. Oregon doesn't bring enough to the table. The only thing Oregon can bring is viewers, which I don't think is enough in itself for the B1G. People can say Nike all they want, but remember Oregon is Nike, Nike is not Oregon. Nike can't buy or bully Oregon's way in. The B1G and its schools can easily tell Nike to go pound sand and they'll take their business to one of its competitors at the first opportunity.
Other than Ohio State, what B1G school has a more realistic chance of winning the CFP than Oregon both in the short and long term?
Oregon is just as good as any potential #2 in the B1G and if they really want to overtake the SEC than you need teams that can make and win the CFP and be in the discussion every single year.
Money plays into this way more than trying to overtake the SEC for a championship, but let's just say that that is at the forefront of their thought process. The added bump of having southern California for recruiting for schools like Michigan, Michigan state, Penn state, Wisconsin, and Ohio state would be more than enough incentive for the B1G to include only USC and UCLA, and to think that would give them what they need to possibly overtake the SEC. Oregon offers essentially nothing when it comes to recruiting
OrTDuck wrote:This is making some rounds (Twitter from Greg Flugar):
"RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Clash of Champioms "Bowl"
Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year."
The other thing he tweeted out was in regards to the lack of interest in the Big 12 from ESPN and Fox about paying for an expanded league.
If there is any kernel of truth in that tweet about ~37M/year for Oregon and Washington it was leaked by someone from either school as a means to see what Fox would come back with about a potential B1G pairing. The Pac 12 with the previously rumored 500M deal (with LA) was set to make us around 41.5M.
It would be pretty funny for the new Pac to play games at the Rose Bowl stadium against the ACC as its owned by the city of Pasadena and a Federal Judge 2 years ago ruled that the city owns the rights to the name of "Rose Bowl Game."
