Washington @ Oregon (Thu 6 PM ESPN2)

[GrantDuck]

We aren't a terrible 3pt shooting team. Better than our 2016 Elite 8 team, actually.

More the lack of consistent playmaking to get us open looks.

As noted, Pritchard in particular is maddeningly inconsistent.

[Merganzer]

https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2019/1/24/1 ... basketball

Let’s get this out of the way. The final call. No, I don’t think that was a foul on Pritchard. Yes, I’d be apoplectic if I was an Oregon fan.

[duckwatcher]

These problems began last year. Instead of playing the young players (kigab, Bailey, wooten to some extent) Coach Altman leaned heavily on McIntosh and Brown all for what became an NIT year.

Not only did those players suck up valuable minutes for players who should have been gaining confidence and improving, but those players were also selfish in terms of their goals which were more to showcase themselves for the next level rather than play winning basketball. That started a trend that I feel still exists and certainly will be the case as Oregon's recruiting is such that it attracts the one and dones.

Coach Altman constantly talks about the importance of defence and rebounding yet continues to play people who have trouble doing either. I think he is a good coach but he is not handling the changing environment of players coming in for one year and demanding things. I believe he has a reputation of bringing in grad transfers as well which makes the problem more difficult perhaps.

The players are no longer as accountable in my opinion. Think back to Troy Brown who had great moments but also plenty of times where his play certainly did not warrant the playing time he was receiving (5 plus turnovers in a game etc). There has to be tremendous pressure on the coaches to play the 5 star guys so they can showcase themselves. This is the new normal of high level college basketball.

They appear to have a somewhat dysfunctional team climate

In the same post you argue that young players weren't getting enough minutes, but then freshman Troy Brown was getting too many minutes. I also disagree that McIntosh was a selfish player, but to each his own. I think McIntosh was actually one of the few guys that could create on his own, and last year would have been much worse without him. Elijah Brown on the other hand was a disaster, but I think that was expected from the beginning. I can agree with Brown being a selfish player, and liability, however, that's about all I agree with. You argue T. Brown should have seen less minutes due to poor play, but argue others like Kigab should have seen additional minutes despite sloppy play. It just seems a little contradictory.

I was referring to Elijah Brown as getting too many minutes. See how that was confusing . I referred to Troy as the secondary problem of a five star guy who does not always perform but plays regardless and at times seem to be out to showcase rather than play team ball.

[droop10]

These problems began last year. Instead of playing the young players (kigab, Bailey, wooten to some extent) Coach Altman leaned heavily on McIntosh and Brown all for what became an NIT year.

Not only did those players suck up valuable minutes for players who should have been gaining confidence and improving, but those players were also selfish in terms of their goals which were more to showcase themselves for the next level rather than play winning basketball. That started a trend that I feel still exists and certainly will be the case as Oregon's recruiting is such that it attracts the one and dones.

Coach Altman constantly talks about the importance of defence and rebounding yet continues to play people who have trouble doing either. I think he is a good coach but he is not handling the changing environment of players coming in for one year and demanding things. I believe he has a reputation of bringing in grad transfers as well which makes the problem more difficult perhaps.

The players are no longer as accountable in my opinion. Think back to Troy Brown who had great moments but also plenty of times where his play certainly did not warrant the playing time he was receiving (5 plus turnovers in a game etc). There has to be tremendous pressure on the coaches to play the 5 star guys so they can showcase themselves. This is the new normal of high level college basketball.

They appear to have a somewhat dysfunctional team climate

In the same post you argue that young players weren't getting enough minutes, but then freshman Troy Brown was getting too many minutes. I also disagree that McIntosh was a selfish player, but to each his own. I think McIntosh was actually one of the few guys that could create on his own, and last year would have been much worse without him. Elijah Brown on the other hand was a disaster, but I think that was expected from the beginning. I can agree with Brown being a selfish player, and liability, however, that's about all I agree with. You argue T. Brown should have seen less minutes due to poor play, but argue others like Kigab should have seen additional minutes despite sloppy play. It just seems a little contradictory.

I was referring to Elijah Brown as getting too many minutes. See how that was confusing . I referred to Troy as the secondary problem of a five star guy who does not always perform but plays regardless and at times seem to be out to showcase rather than play team ball.

Gotcha. I was responding to this 1 particular line: "The players are no longer as accountable in my opinion. Think back to Troy Brown who had great moments but also plenty of times where his play certainly did not warrant the playing time he was receiving (5 plus turnovers in a game etc). "

Perhaps the wires got crossed as to which Brown was which, but I see Troy.