ducks5ever wrote:That said, Lanning's comments a few months ago were a bit uncalled for. I'm guessing he's not going to make such remarks ever again. Such comments are not productive no matter how you spin it.
Anyways, I'm glad the CU hype train made it to Eugene intact, and there will be plenty of eyeballs on us
The comments were made while Oregon's future was most likely in the remainder of the PAC. So let's say you're Lanning and you've got a recruit questioning whether if he comes to Oregon will he even be playing in a "Power" conference and the latest news is Colorado is jumping ship. So you say, when prompted, how does Colorado leaving change anything at all?
He wasn't wrong. And it's only with hindsight that you can say there was no purpose or value in defending the PAC.
But if we look at the bigger picture, I do not believe that this was a decision that Lanning would or should have been involved in anyways. His job is to coach a football team, not deal with the administrative stuff. He could've said exactly what you said without the extra jab (CU leaving doesn't change anything).
Oregon administration is good and they would not leave Lanning in the dark, and I'm sure he was notified/consulted as the process was going. But that said, he's not a primary decision maker when it comes to this and there was just no reason for him to jump into this stuff anyways. In all honesty, the media questions are dumb. They look for drama like this and he took the bait.
I really don’t understand the hate for PrimeTime, honestly a lot of the haters sound like the Oregon haters that criticize us for the new age jerseys. PrimeTime is trying to appeal to high school kids, not adult college football fans and he’s doing a great job of that. A team is only as good as the athletes, even the best coach can’t win a national championship with 3 star athletes. Turning Colorado around isn’t an overnight job, it’ll take years for Deion to clean the mess. I personally think he’s a really good coach and will do great things at Colorado if he sticks around for a while.
And even if he doesn’t succeed at Colorado he’s still far more successful than everyone on this forum combined.
OregonFan4Life wrote:I really don’t understand the hate for PrimeTime, honestly a lot of the haters sound like the Oregon haters that criticize us for the new age jerseys. PrimeTime is trying to appeal to high school kids, not adult college football fans and he’s doing a great job of that. A team is only as good as the athletes, even the best coach can’t win a national championship with 3 star athletes. Turning Colorado around isn’t an overnight job, it’ll take years for Deion to clean the mess. I personally think he’s a really good coach and will do great things at Colorado if he sticks around for a while.
And even if he doesn’t succeed at Colorado he’s still far more successful than everyone on this forum combined.
The entire thing is contrived by the media and Deion himself. Who’s telling us how much people hate Deion? Deion and the sports media. All the controversy so far has been Deion, his son, and their mouthpieces in the media taking normal comments and behavior and blowing them out of proportion. No one would’ve even noticed Matt Rhule doing whatever minor thing he did if Deion and his kids hadn’t run to the media to cry about it.
And who’s forcing the Buffs and Deion on anyone who has any interest in sports? The same sports media. Very few people hate Deion, people are just tired on not being able to escape him. For example, the ESPN app is basically just a Deion and CU app now.
OregonFan4Life wrote:I really don’t understand the hate for PrimeTime, honestly a lot of the haters sound like the Oregon haters that criticize us for the new age jerseys. PrimeTime is trying to appeal to high school kids, not adult college football fans and he’s doing a great job of that. A team is only as good as the athletes, even the best coach can’t win a national championship with 3 star athletes. Turning Colorado around isn’t an overnight job, it’ll take years for Deion to clean the mess. I personally think he’s a really good coach and will do great things at Colorado if he sticks around for a while.
And even if he doesn’t succeed at Colorado he’s still far more successful than everyone on this forum combined.
It's more that people are annoyed that CU gets all this hype just because they have a celebrity football coach. The team isn't all that, and they're extremely overrated for the amount of hype the program gets. Other fan bases can't get over the attention that program gets for really not doing much since they get nonstop media coverage.
Personally, I don't really care about Deion. He can do whatever. My guess is he's going down the Mark Richt route when he was at Miami. He'll have all the hype, someone eventually pokes a hole in their aura of invincibility and greatness, and then he'll disappear.
This game feels like a no-win situation. Win big and Colorado was vastly overrated and falls out of the rankings. Win small and Colorado wasn't that good so you don't impress. Lose and Colorado is the talk of the country for another week.
StevensTechU wrote:This game feels like a no-win situation. Win big and Colorado was vastly overrated and falls out of the rankings. Win small and Colorado wasn't that good so you don't impress. Lose and Colorado is the talk of the country for another week.
While I tend to see this as true, I think the value for Oregon in this game isn't just the immediate aftermath of the win but what it could mean if CU actually upsets some Pac teams this year.
I tend to think they may be too beat up/emotionally spent to be ready to come into Autzen and win, but next week they host USC at home and beating the Trojans would have the larger effect for them. I won't be shocked if in the 2nd half and we're up that Deion doesn't start resting guys.
Either way this game is going to be our single best test to get ready for uw.
I wonder if Colorado's starting center when the season began (Van Wells) is going to play against the Ducks? They had to start a backup freshman at center last game (Hank Zilinskas). As you might expect from a freshman that wasn't rated real high, he is a bit undersized and he has no experience starting a college game on the road. If they have to rely on this kid, rather than the more experienced Van Wells (he at least started several games last season, and started at TCU and against Nebraska), that could be a major factor in this game. I would think guys like Taki Taimani, Popo and Casey Rodgers would be able to get a good push and collapse the pocket often, particularly since their guards aren't overly big either.
Of course, collapsing the pocket is only half the battle when it comes to containing Sanders...
gogreen55 wrote:I wonder if Colorado's starting center when the season began (Van Wells) is going to play against the Ducks? They had to start a backup freshman at center last game (Hank Zilinskas). As you might expect from a freshman that wasn't rated real high, he is a bit undersized and he has no experience starting a college game on the road. If they have to rely on this kid, rather than the more experienced Van Wells (he at least started several games last season, and started at TCU and Nebraska), that could be a major factor in this game. I would think guys like Taki Taimani and Casey Rodgers would be able to get a good push and collapse the pocket often, particularly since their guards aren't overly big either.
I've said this before, but I've seen Popo, Taki and Casey all walk the Center back with some regularity so far this year. Even if Wells plays, he's listed around 290 (JPJ is listed at 320) and will be giving up some major beef to both Popo and Taki. It's definitely worth watching how well our Tackles can create pressure inside for our Edges to rush as I think we should be get around 5 sacks in this game.
A couple of minutia Colorado stats for this season I haven't heard mentioned so far. (Acknowledging 3 game stats are meh)
Defensively 3rd down conversion rate is not good at about 48% but they are good on 4th down with only 1 in 5 being converted against them.
Colorado has been conservative only trying three 4th downs all season (converting 2 of them) while punting 12 times. For contrast Texas Tech has attempted 8 conversions to 10 punts and Oregon is 5 & 7.
Colorado has been excellent in the Redzone 100% on offense 58% on defense. (Oddly no one has kicked a redzone FG against them in 3 games)
