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Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:54 pm
by Boom
oregontrack wrote:Boom wrote:Mukden - It appears that your making a lot of assumptions about "religious" schools and what they teach.
Do you know for a fact that they claim the earth is only 6,000 yrs old? I doubt it..... whats next are you going to tell me they think evolution is fake?

Um, yes.
According to Christian doctrine, the Earth is 6,000 years old. Laughable, I know, but I do believe Mormons follow the same Creationist beliefs as the other Christian religions.
No such thing
Unless your talking about the Bible.
Certain sectors of "Christianity" could have their own doctrine.......but that is simply their interpretation
Not all Christians claim they can trace the Earth's age through genealogy.
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:02 pm
by greenyellow
Biggus Duckus wrote:I don't want Baylor because I know nothing about them, not because they are a religious school (although i didn't know that until today). Didn't even know they were in Texas. Would much rather have Colorado since they are closer to the Pac. And because three Texas schools is enough.
Same reasons for me.
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:34 pm
by oregontrack
Boom wrote:oregontrack wrote:Boom wrote:Mukden - It appears that your making a lot of assumptions about "religious" schools and what they teach.
Do you know for a fact that they claim the earth is only 6,000 yrs old? I doubt it..... whats next are you going to tell me they think evolution is fake?

Um, yes.
According to Christian doctrine, the Earth is 6,000 years old. Laughable, I know, but I do believe Mormons follow the same Creationist beliefs as the other Christian religions.
No such thing
Unless your talking about the Bible.
Certain sectors of "Christianity" could have their own doctrine.......but that is simply their interpretation
Not all Christians claim they can trace the Earth's age through genealogy.
And that's good, it shows that some Christians have a mind of their own. However, it's not "breaking news" that the majority of Christian scholars, church leaders/members have determined the Earth is 6,000 years old based on what they find in that Bible of theirs. And that's what what's-his-name was talking about earlier.
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:52 pm
by shear_j
Biggus Duckus wrote:The reason I don't want Baylor is because I know nothing about them, not because they are a religious school (although i didn't know that until today). Didn't even know they were in Texas. Would much rather have Colorado since they are closer to the Pac. And because three Texas schools is enough.
yep. i think that Colarado would be better just because they provide a bit of a midpoint (sorry for the math term) between the other big-12 schools and the pac-10 schools. I think there would be a bigger disconnect between the pacific schools and the southern schools if colorado or utah isn't a part of the school, at least that would be the perception to the rest of the country
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:01 pm
by greenyellow
shear_j wrote:Biggus Duckus wrote:The reason I don't want Baylor is because I know nothing about them, not because they are a religious school (although i didn't know that until today). Didn't even know they were in Texas. Would much rather have Colorado since they are closer to the Pac. And because three Texas schools is enough.
yep. i think that Colarado would be better just because they provide a bit of a midpoint (sorry for the math term) between the other big-12 schools and the pac-10 schools. I think there would be a bigger disconnect between the pacific schools and the southern schools if colorado or utah isn't a part of the school, at least that would be the perception to the rest of the country
We should ban you for a week for mentioning a math term on a Sunday.

Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:21 pm
by dthomas=ddixon
Boom wrote:oregontrack wrote:Boom wrote:Mukden - It appears that your making a lot of assumptions about "religious" schools and what they teach.
Do you know for a fact that they claim the earth is only 6,000 yrs old? I doubt it..... whats next are you going to tell me they think evolution is fake?

Um, yes.
According to Christian doctrine, the Earth is 6,000 years old. Laughable, I know, but I do believe Mormons follow the same Creationist beliefs as the other Christian religions.
No such thing
Unless your talking about the Bible.
Certain sectors of "Christianity" could have their own doctrine.......but that is simply their interpretation
Not all Christians claim they can trace the Earth's age through genealogy.
You guys do know that evolution is a
theory & has never been proven, right?
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:31 pm
by uostudent
The Pac 10 for a long time has been committed to remaining a secular conference. If they were interested in religious universities, BYU would already be a member of the conference.
Here's what Kirk Bohls (from the stateman- Austin newspaper) just tweeted:
"Yes, the same Big 12 school official told me the Pac 10 has no interest in Baylor."
And Mukden has made some very legitimate points about how a Baptist university (which is completely different than Jesuit) can have a negative effect on scientific research. The more important point that is related to this discussion is that Baylor has an atrocious football program that hasn't been good in a very long time. Their basketball program has only been good for the past few years. Colorado is a far better academic and athletic school.
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:32 pm
by shear_j
greenyellow wrote:shear_j wrote:Biggus Duckus wrote:The reason I don't want Baylor is because I know nothing about them, not because they are a religious school (although i didn't know that until today). Didn't even know they were in Texas. Would much rather have Colorado since they are closer to the Pac. And because three Texas schools is enough.
yep. i think that Colarado would be better just because they provide a bit of a midpoint (sorry for the math term) between the other big-12 schools and the pac-10 schools. I think there would be a bigger disconnect between the pacific schools and the southern schools if colorado or utah isn't a part of the school, at least that would be the perception to the rest of the country
We should ban you for a week for mentioning a math term on a Sunday.

I'm sorry. I've been in school so long I can't think anything but geometric stuff. I think school's actually made me dumber

Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:33 pm
by chapelhillduck
dthomas=ddixon wrote:Boom wrote:oregontrack wrote:Boom wrote:Mukden - It appears that your making a lot of assumptions about "religious" schools and what they teach.
Do you know for a fact that they claim the earth is only 6,000 yrs old? I doubt it..... whats next are you going to tell me they think evolution is fake?

Um, yes.
According to Christian doctrine, the Earth is 6,000 years old. Laughable, I know, but I do believe Mormons follow the same Creationist beliefs as the other Christian religions.
No such thing
Unless your talking about the Bible.
Certain sectors of "Christianity" could have their own doctrine.......but that is simply their interpretation
Not all Christians claim they can trace the Earth's age through genealogy.
You guys do know that evolution is a
theory & has never been proven, right?
Please, no...
back to football
I (and I think everyone but Texas legislators) would much rather Colorado. Yes they suck now in just about everything but they do have a bit of tradition and bring a slightly fertile colorado recruiting ground
If we end up taking Baylor I would have much rather dropped Tech and Baylor for BYU and Utah ( in a perfect world where we were going to take a religious school)
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:34 pm
by shear_j
uostudent wrote:The Pac 10 for a long time has been committed to remaining a secular conference. If they were interested in religious universities, BYU would already be a member of the conference.
Here's what Kirk Bohls (from the stateman- Austin newspaper) just tweeted:
"Yes, the same Big 12 school official told me the Pac 10 has no interest in Baylor."
And Mukden has made some very legitimate points about how a Baptist university (which is completely different than Jesuit) can have a negative effect on scientific research. The more important point that is related to this discussion is that Baylor has an atrocious football program that hasn't been good in a very long time. Their basketball program has only been good for the past few years. Colorado is a far better academic and athletic school.
I always thought the issue was their academics, not their religion
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:36 pm
by UOducksTK1
No way do I want another green/yellow team in our conference. NO!
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:41 pm
by greenyellow
UOducksTK1 wrote:No way do I want another green/yellow team in our conference. NO!
Well, they tend to be more of a metallic gold than yellow, but you have a serious point of contention there. Oregon should reserve the right to veto any move that involves a team with the same colors.

Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:03 pm
by shear_j
chapelhillduck wrote:
Please, no...
back to football
I (and I think everyone but Texas legislators) would much rather Colorado. Yes they suck now in just about everything but they do have a bit of tradition and bring a slightly fertile colorado recruiting ground
If we end up taking Baylor I would have much rather dropped Tech and Baylor for BYU and Utah ( in a perfect world where we were going to take a religious school)
pretty please...back to football
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:10 pm
by oregontrack
One more, then back to football. I promise.
Evolution has been proven, actually.
Alright, back to football.
Re: Expansion w/Baylor not Colorado?
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:13 pm
by greenyellow
oregontrack wrote:One more, then back to football. I promise.
Evolution has been proven, actually.
Alright, back to football.
One more.
Evolution has been proven to a certain extent but it's not a law by any means.
OK, back to football.